Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tommy Drake

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP - nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure). Whpq (talk) 16:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Drake

Non-notable wrestler. Main contributor is User:Tommydrake, so conflict of interest is probable. (Although in his defense, he's now claiming that he's not Drake, just using his name.)CyberGhostface (talk) 20:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm revoking my deletion request for the time being. This appears to be a big misunderstanding on my part.--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not Tommy Drake. My name is Mike Delane. I have followed Indy and Japan wrestling for years. I used to live in California where I first saw Tommy Drake wrestle. At that time he was calling himself Tommy Blaze. I have put a lot of time into this page. It should not be deleted because it is not a conflict of interest. I AM NOT DRAKE. I watch Drake wrestle ever other Tuesday in Tempe AZ now and he is very notable. He has had an extensive career. Just because he wasn't overly popular in the states or because he never became as popular as Steve Austin or the Rock dosent mean his life in the wrestling business isn't warrented. Most real fans of wrestling know who he is or have heard of him. It is a good page with accurate information. Edited by me, Mike Delane of Tempe Arizona.....Not Tommy Drake. Just because my user name is tommydrake doesn't mean Im him. What percent of user names are the actual user? Im just a fan and to delete my work on this page because my choice of user name was, I guess bad, would be hasty. Correlating my user name to the actual person is extremely circumstantial. However the information on the page is highly factual. A conflict of interest is not present here, and never was.Tommydrake (talk) 22:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then why did you say, on this edit, "I want to verify the Tommy Drake page. I am Tommy Drake and I have read the article and found it to be accurate"?--CyberGhostface (talk) 22:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because I thought the information on the page was being questioned. So I thought if I said I was Tommy Drake and verified it wouldn't get deleted. It made sense to me, and being that the info can be varified without drake if fugured it wasn't a big deal. And as far as the many edits to the page. I made the mistake of not using what you call the sandbox, and I saved every time I added to the page. I didn't know I was creating tons of edits untill you put the note at the top of the page. Im still learning how all this works and I made mistakes. Why did you delete the photos off the page?Tommydrake (talk) 22:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures of real people have to be released into the public domain. If you just grabbed them from his myspace, as you said on the talk page, then chances are they aren't free images.--CyberGhostface (talk) 22:49, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So if I find pictures on the web, do I have to ask permission or just list where I got the photo?Tommydrake (talk) 23:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC) If someones myspace page and photos are not marked private, can I use them?Tommydrake (talk) 23:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have to have their permission if the image is not already in the public domain. Look here and here.--CyberGhostface (talk) 23:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How long can it take for a decision on articles for deletion? I would like to try again to edit this page. I think I have a better understanding of how to edit. However, I dont want to put in anymore work if its going to be deleted anyway.Tommydrake (talk) 01:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to trust that you are who you say you are and revoke my deletion request since I assumed a bit of bad faith when making this deletion in the first place after coming across countless pages written by the subjects. But in the future, you should always create your own original username and not base it off a real person that you aren't. Good luck on improving the article.--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.