Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toe tuft

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The result was merge to Cat anatomy. Modussiccandi (talk) 08:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Toe tuft

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Article is regarding a very niche part of feline anatomy alleged to be named 'Toe Tufts'. Cannot find any further verifiable info online pertaining to these tufts that is scientifically accurate.   Kadzi   (talk) 19:06, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Animal and Science.   Kadzi   (talk) 19:06, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 20:12, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are these different from Ungual tufts? BD2412 T 01:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know but that article is about rats. I'm not finding anything for cats, but in human anatomy it seems to mean something entirely different – a small bone underneath toenails. That seems to be the most common meaning. SpinningSpark 16:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The term seems to be commonly used in books about pet cats, for instance The Ultimate Guide To Cat Breeds where it is repeatedly used as a breed identification feature. SpinningSpark 16:31, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It seems like there must be sources for something like this, part of the anatomy of a cat, when there are cat shows and cat breeders who would care about features like this and document their opinions on function and appearance and the like. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep well-known part of owning a cat, every cat owner knowns what these are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DailyJew (talk • contribs) 04:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can the potential sourcing for this be elaborated on?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 07:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mellohi!: Was that comment aimed at me? What kind of elaboration are you looking for? Is it quotations from the book I linked to? SpinningSpark 12:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@SpinningSpark: I was asking for extra sources to add to the article after to both solidify the keep rationale and for others to add to the article after this AfD is over. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:08, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The source I linked basically has a lot of passing mentions. All that could be extracted from it is which breeds have noticeable toe tufts and their length/colour for each breed. That's the one that covered the largest number of breeds wrt to toe tufts, but a number of other books mention them for one or two breeds, for instance Domestic Cats: Their History, Breeds and Other Facts. The nearest I got to anything encyclopaedic beyond who has them was Planet Cat: A Cat-Alog which says, at least for one breed, they are part of winter protection, and Cat Lover's Daily Companion which describes another winter-evolved breed that doesn't lose its toe tufts in summer (implying, by the exception that proves the rule, that some breeds do so lose then) SpinningSpark 18:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Cat anatomy. Unsourced article which can easily be covered with a couple lines at the target. Note that the target does not currently mention 'toe tufts', but along with some of the sources discussed above, a mention would not be detrimental. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 17:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Unsure what to do about it. It is a thing, yes, but it's usage seems to be internet lingo, which is why academic searches don't result in anything. Perhaps it is that rat toenail thing? Maybe redirect to cat anatomy? Could there be another term for this? SWinxy (talk) 02:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
weakmerge to cat anatomy.... I suppose this is the best place for it, but it doesn't seem to have any traction if it isn't already even mentioned there. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:29, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What's written (or isn't written) in Wikipedia articles doesn't prove shit per WP:UGC and WP:WINARS, but I'm not so sure they aren't talked about in that article; In their normal, relaxed position, the claws are sheathed with the skin and fur around the toe pads. This keeps the claws sharp by preventing wear from contact with the ground and allows the silent stalking of prey. SpinningSpark 11:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't sound like it is describing toe tufts. It sounds like it is describing claw sheathing. Perhaps the cat anatomy article needs a section about cat fur, and then maybe add a line in there about toe tufts. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, fur does not form any part of the claw sheath, and cats can't retract their claws in and out of the sheath as described here (except by shedding them altogether). SpinningSpark 18:49, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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