Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of young people's rights in France
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The result was delete. Note that the delete arguments are more about how this is written than fundamental notability of the topic so it may be possible to try again, ie WP:TNT. -- RoySmith (talk) 05:15, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
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I'm not convinced this list actually reflects what it says it does. Most of these are just...random things that young people did, like being granted stuff from the royal purse or travelling to sleep with their older boyfriend. Maybe the stuff about age of consent and social media use down towards the bottom could be construed as having to do with "young peoples rights", but otherwise this is more a list of trivia than coherent content.
I'd say we should merge anything relevant to like, child welfare in France or something, but we don't have an article on the topic by any title that I've found. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:00, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:17, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:18, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete – Although the article's author provides considerable sourcing, there does not seem to be a source that connects all these historical factoids into a narrative of youth rights in France. Therefore, the whole exercise is WP:Synthesis and must go. — JFG talk 01:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Keep – This article illustrates what young people in France were able and allowed to do over the times. It provides examples of freedom of religion, freedom of movement, right to work, right to education, child marriage, ... and their curtailment. It is construed analogously to Timeline of young people's rights in the United Kingdom and Timeline of young people's rights in the United States. The article can be improved rather than deleted. Wakari07 (talk) 10:00, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Delete I agree with the nominator that this list does not represent what it says it does, and I don't agree that it's analagous to either the UK or US lists, which are about rights, responsibilities, legislation, etc, relating to children in general (or a particular category of children), but not individual children, as this one largely is. Only the last 4 items are general (the point about the French Revolution, etc, does not say how the Declaration relates to children or young people). I don't think it's worth keeping just for the last 4 points. (I'm not even sure that it would constitute WP:Synthesis, because I can't see any conclusion or implication!) RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:25, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, really under the idea of WP:TNT. This isn't a timeline of rights but a mish-mash of accomplishments or legislation that actually curtails rights (like the minors who need parental consent to access social media). Ifnord (talk) 03:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Delete This isn’t even written in the style of timelines on Wikipedia. It looks like a 9th grade essay.Trillfendi (talk) 04:07, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
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