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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While a number of editors have argued that the article should be kept, they did not address the main point of those arguing for deletion, that the list itself was WP:NOR/WP:SYNTH. Jayjg (talk) 02:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of the War on Terrorism[edit]

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  • Delete as the editor who turned this synthesis into a redirect. As an article, it had too much unsourced original research to stand alone (the sourced material merely reflected a section of War on Terror). B.Wind (talk) 05:03, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Are there accuracy concerns with where it is right now? I'm not sure the objection to it. If there are challenged facts, and nobody fixes them in, let's say 6 weeks, I'd be happy to reevaluate, but seems like a notable topic, well designed page. Lacking some sources, but not a huge issue unless there are some factual issues coming up. Shadowjams (talk) 07:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I am always dubious of lists of events, as normally they are WP:OR even if the only synthesis is in the lead paragraph and the title. Single events are seldom notable, and a list of single events doesn't change that. I think it is telling that this list is an orphan, serving no function in the Wikipedia. --Bejnar (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Those articles you mention are well sourced and the topic is well defined. On the contrary, the War on Terror is a topic that cannot be easily defined, let alone its timeline. If you can you find some reliable secondary source to support such an article I'd gladly change my vote. Although,even in that case, that could be incorporated in the main article.--JokerXtreme (talk) 11:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know that OAE is part of WoT, it was actually me who added that in the main article. That's not in question. Are you willing to check for sources for all the elements in the list? It is not a matter of work, it's a matter of content that shouldn't even be in an article like that. Take this for example, about 2003:
May 12 - Insurgency in Saudi Arabia begins.
May 16 - Casablanca bombings in Casablanca, Morocco kills 45 people.
August 5 - Marriott Hotel bombing in Setiabudi, Indonesia kill 12 people
November 15 and November 20 - Istanbul bombings in Istanbul, Turkey kill 57 civilians.
Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with the Us-led War on Terror. Bombings in Casablanca have nothing to do with the Us-led War on Terror. Bombing in Indonesia has nothing to do with the Us-led War on Terror. And guess what, yes, bombings in Istanbul have nothing to do with the Us-led War on Terror. All those things are irrelevant. And we are talking about the majority of the list items here. --JokerXtreme (talk) 22:50, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Personally, yes, I would be willing, should the article be kept, to go through all the times in the list. Sure, there are some events that don't belong, but that's all very fixable, no? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Uncertain - What would be the difference between this and a category called "War on Terror" applied to all the events linked on this page? The page needs sourcing for sure but most of that can come from the pages that are linked to on this one since every event has a link to another page about that event and every one I've checked has sourcing about the facts expressed in this page. I would remove number of kills on the attacks and other text though without going into detail of event to maintain a NPOV on this page. ZacBowling (user|talk) 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The advantages of a timeline over a category is that a timeline allows events to be put in chronological order. Also a timeline allows for brief descriptions of each event, while a category does not. In this particular case, it seems a timeline might be more fitting. Regards, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 21:45, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • What it comes down to, as I mention above, is basically that terrorist attacks do not belong in the WoT. This is especially true for countries that never affiliated themselves with any WoT. WoT is a very specific thing. It's a series of US-led operations, not anywhere near as global as the Bush administration would like it to be. --JokerXtreme (talk) 22:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • If that's true (which it certainly could be), it seems to be very fixable. I'm still not convinced, however, that that's a reason for deletion, is it? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not original reasearch. Qajar (talk) 23:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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