Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Wilson (British politician)

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The result was keep. Tone 15:19, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Wilson (British politician)[edit]

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Well, let's test this one out. I don't believe this guy meets WP:POLITICIAN, on the basis of resigning from UKIP prior to the 2015 UK General Election. Apart from the fact he fell-out with UKIP there's very little of substance available about him in non-blog journalistic sources. He's now taking part in a new UK reality TV series, but generally known there as "Tim" whoused to be a monk and likes cats. The recent news about him largely repeats the fact he fell out with UKIP. He's not a notable academic and the animation award he received was minor. Sure, if he wins The Circle, maybe this will change things. He's otherwise likely to fall back into complete obscurity. I can't find anything in-depth to prove he meets WP:GNG. Sionk (talk) 13:16, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:40, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Is he VERY notable? No. But somehow he's managed to stay in the news for years: 1 2 3 4. Easy pass for WP:BASIC. FOARP (talk) 18:18, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Brief mentions, all of them, apart from his profile for the reality TV show, which re-hashes the brief mentions. And we don't habitually write articles on everyone who takes part in reality TV. Sionk (talk) 19:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Brief mentions", Uh-huh. Every one of those articles was multiple paragraphs long and primarily about him, and was published in a WP:RS. No. 1 is a BBC article entitled "UKIP candidate quits party over Scottish MEP's 'Abu Hamza' remark" and is 3,193 characters long, all about Tim Wilson. No. 2 is a Lancashire Telegraph/AP story that is 2,866 characters long and again, almost entirely about Tim Wilson. No. 3 is a piece by Euromaidan Press, which qualifies as a WP:NEWSORG, 3,730 characters long and primarily about him. Finally no. 4 is a piece in the Independent 3,051 characters long and is again, entirely about him. That's four instances of significant coverage in four different reliable sources relating to three incidents over the course of four years. Very easy pass for WP:BASIC here. FOARP (talk) 16:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We clearly have widely different definitions. I'd disagree that the UKIP articles are primarily about Wilson, or even say that much about him. They're as much about UKIP, the Scottish MEP and Farage. We learn very little about Wilson. For any other person this would be a ONEEVENT scenario. The Euromaident article has aicture of him, but very little (a paragraph) is about him. I'm surprised the article has survived so long. But I can see the winds of change are against me here. Sionk (talk) 20:59, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This clearly isn't a WP:1E situation because there are multiple notable instances reported (quitting UKIP, the report on the RT interview incident, appearing on reality TV). Even if it was, WP:1E IS NOT a stand-alone WP:DELREASON, since the standard solution for WP:BLP1E is to merge/redirect to the appropriate article discussing the event, not delete. All four of the above reports are instances of WP:SIGCOV as they "address the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content" and are not trivial mentions. If I were you, with this AFD already deep in WP:SNOW territory, I would withdraw the nom, but that's up to you. FOARP (talk) 07:27, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He has recieved decent coverage for a number of reasons, which makes him notable. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 22:34, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This page will be needed as Tim is a major figure in The Circle (British series 2), he has received a lot of attention on social media and users will probably want to know about him. Especially if he is a finalist or even wins the series. I don't believe he is mainly a politician though. JamesVilla44 (talk) 12:12, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He’s winning The Circle anyways Davidfromfinance (talk) 01:56, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I feel like this man is about to become a serious figure given his popularity in The Circle - but he's no longer just a Politician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurugby54 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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