Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tilt (camera)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. And, as Kvng points out, merging can be discussed on the talk page. So Why 10:38, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tilt (camera)

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No encyclopaedic content, merely a definition of the word tilt and an assertion that it is applicable to cameras. Kevin McE (talk) 14:42, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- DICDEF. If someone wants to move the content to Wiktionary, fine. There are hundreds of unreferenced photography articles, a remnant of a time when the standards for new articles were lower. Rhadow (talk) 15:27, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's an article about a technique rather than simply a definition of a word, so not a DICDEF. Could be expanded, I'm sure, with discussion of tilt plates, etc., and how tilt is used in cinema, for which there are several possible book sources. Could quite possibly be merged somewhere else if appropriate. --Michig (talk) 16:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC) Merging with Panning (camera) and renaming that article to Panning and tilting would seem a reasonable option. --Michig (talk) 16:15, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 19:41, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There's already a large section at View_camera that covers this topic and likewise tilt–shift photography deals with tilting on small and medium format cameras. I'm not certain if this standalone article is needed as the info is covered elsewhere and this specific definition is pretty basic and really can't be expanded beyond a stub. freshacconci (✉) 19:48, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete altogether or at best Merge with Pan and tilt (camera) or similar. The subject is entirely too banal on its own. Tilters gonna tilt.104.163.148.25 (talk) 01:47, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect and possibly Merge anything worthwhile into the section in View_camera, as tilt–shift photography is specifically about the use of a kind of 35mm lens.--Theredproject (talk) 02:40, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It's worth noting, however banal it is, that tilt is probably more often used as a director's instruction to a studio or remote camera operator (e.g. "tilt up and pan left") than it is in large format photo or in reference to a tilt-shift lens.104.163.148.25 (talk) 05:22, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Matches the corresponding article on Panning_(camera), though I'd happily see both articles merged together into Pan and tilt (camera). Pan and tilt are not minor terms or minor techniques within photography. The View camera is a very specific large format camera, so a redirect would be just lost there, whereas this term is applicable to cameras/video and film photography and tripods. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:55, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Very difficult to see the two articles as matching. Panning has relevance for shutter speed and exposure, references etymology, use in video and 3D modelling: tilt essentially says "point it up or down a bit). Possible grounds for merger, but the tilt article per se is no more than application of a definition, and by no means a match to the one on panning. Kevin McE (talk) 13:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are reasonable arguments for a merge to Panning (camera), but I don't think that works. At one level, they're both just rotations around an axis on the camera mount. But, tilt tends to be static; tilt to some angle, and lock it there. Panning is often dynamic, where you continuously pan to follow a moving subject with the specific goal of freezing motion of the main subject and/or blurring the background. This difference is implicit in the naming of the articles; it's not Pan (camera), it's Panning (camera), with the gerund form implying an ongoing action. Merging the two into tilt and pan wouldn't be terrible, but it's not necessary. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:01, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 16:05, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 02:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. 104.163.148.25 (talk) 03:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Have been adding content. Would be good if Tilt (camera) and Panning (camera) were similar in naming and style. Needs better separation with View camera.

Keep - WP:DICTDEF is only a valid reason to delete if there is no potential to expand. Potential to expand has been amply demonstrated. Merge opportunities can be discussed separately on talk pages. ~Kvng (talk) 18:03, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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