Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tianshannet

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Mhhossein ^talk 12:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tianshannet[edit]

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Reviewed under new article curation . review. IMO fails wp:notability. Zero secondary sources discussing the topic. Of the two sources, one is a primary source / self-announcement of the website, the other is a 13 year old announcement by BBC that this website would be carrying some of their programming. I came up with nothing better in a web search. Creator is blocked. North8000 (talk) 13:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is the official government news agency for the region that is cited throughout Wikipedia [1]. Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:32, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@North8000: Check out Baidu Baike's page on this: [2]. What's more likely: you're deleting the page for an important resource on a little understood region of the world, or that this is a legitimate deletion of an unimportant topic? Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:38, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I contend that this article is a stub, but that its stubbiness does by no means imply that the topic is unimportant. Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:40, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) ::@Geographyinitiative: First, I'm not deleting it, I nominated it for review by others. It's not that it's just a stub; there's nothing in the article except a 19 year old self-annuncement of existence of the website, and a 13 year old announcement that the site would carry some BBC material. There's not even a link to the website that the article is about. You wrote more at the AFD than in the article :-) And no work on the article since April 18th. Why don't you just add at least a few sentences to the article along the lines of what you wrote here? If the coverage/sources show some indication of what you wrote in the AFD it probably should be kept and then I'd be happy to withdraw.

I added comments from Reuters and AP concerning Tianshannet- if you need more proof of notability, there's more out there. Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The official word from the Cyberspace Administration of China is that it's the official news website for Xinjiang (see page) Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Geographyinitiative:If sourc-able, why don't you put that in the article? It says a lot. North8000 (talk) 14:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's not a lot of direct commentary on Tianshannet by other sources other than that it is the official news outlet of the regional government. Notable stub for now. As time goes on, I will organically add more material to the page, but to force a glut of new material now is too crude. A thing can be extremely notable yet be little known or understood. Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:notability relates to coverage of the topic which can be different that the common meaning of notability. But either way, you've bolstered it quite a bit in the last couple hours, including current sourcing that it is as described. I'll withdraw the nomination. Happy editing! North8000 (talk) 15:25, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn/Keep Per above and new work and sourcing. North8000 (talk) 15:25, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@North8000: Thanks for your help! I probably wouldn't have added more information without this process. Geographyinitiative (talk) 04:48, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Geographyinitiative: Cool. Thanks for creating / building this article. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 10:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.