Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theories of death anxiety

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Necrophobia. Consensus appears to be that the topic might be notable, but that that the article is an essay and heavy on original synthesis. If someone wishes to attempt an encyclopedic article about death anxiety, there are some resources cited here that can be relied upon. Mandsford 00:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Theories of death anxiety[edit]

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This is a personal essay on which works in the field of death anxiety are particularly notable, and why. Guy (Help!) 17:16, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. Interesting, but Wikipedia isn't the place to write your thesis. Erpert (let's talk about it) 18:03, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:44, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Extra strong delete to compensate for the inexplicable weak delete above. This is OR/SYNTHESIS of the most blatant kind. EEng (talk) 20:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Normal Powered Delete. Weak thesis, no established external notability. Can't see why anyone would reference such an entry. --Quartermaster (talk) 18:29, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename to death anxiety, a clearly notable topic, for which this article is a perfectly valid start, especially as it explicitly references sources in the text, making it the exact opposite of OR/SYNTHESIS. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Necrophobia already exists with a section on thanatophobia (which redirects to necrophobia). It seems that contributions on death anxiety might better be placed in that context. In any case, the OR nature of this specific article still leads me to continue to support delete. I think the idea of death anxiety is ubiquitous, but a thesis on a handful of select theories is not necessary. Articles about specific theories, and death and dying theorists (e.g., Elisabeth Kübler-Ross) are perfectly appropriate, yet better approached via contribution to the appropriate articles, followed by categorization. --Quartermaster (talk) 16:39, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - What's the "OR nature of this specific article"? Name two sources that do not support the content they are purported to support. Point to a novel hypothesis not mentioned in the sources. Uncle G (talk) 15:06, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator's statement already explained the issue, which is seen in the lead: "Along with Sigmund Freud’s and Ernest Becker’s works, the following works on death anxiety are worth mentioning." It's an editor's selection and summary of various theories, with no RS to tell us why these are "worth mentioning" or how they relate to one another (or to anything else, for that matter). EEng (talk) 17:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pls see the article now. The wrong words "worth mentioning" have been replaced.Shoovrow (talk) 04:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All you've done is change "worth mentioning" to "can be found." Apparently you're still the one selecting certain theories for mention in the article. Still OR/OSynth. EEng (talk) 17:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Necrophobia. The content has some WP:NOR issues (appears to contain editorial opinion), but the content is almost very good for the project, and with some little work could be used to substantially improve the article Necrophobia. Suggest at Talk:Necrophobia that there may be useful material to be found in the history behind the redirect. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and make it even stronger. These theories are notable as no other theory on death anxiety could be found. If you find one pls add it. The best way is to turn the article to something like "Death Anxiety" and enrich it with definitions and etc. Death Anxiety is a part of Scientific Thanatology and it is quite reasonable that it should seem like a thesis or personal essay.Shoovrow (talk) 03:41, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Shoovrow, you would be the sole substantive author of this page? No, it is not OK to make a page about theories, and then add every related theory that can be found. You first have to find sources (secondary sources) that discuss these theories, in a general sense. What you may be able to do is add these theories to the subject they theorise on, which in this case seems to be Necrophobia. I urge you to do this. You seem knowledgeable on the subject, and the encyclopedia would be better with your contributions, but you, especially, need to take the messages written at WP:NOR to heart. WP:NOR is an essential restriction to the project to counterbalance the disregard the project has for the credentials (if any) of the editors. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Dear SmokeyJoe, I must admit I am a amateur editor for wiki and I welcome helpful comments from experienced editors. I am a researcher of Thanatos Psychology and there Thanatophobia is usually referred to as Death Anxiety in practical use. And u see I proposed to upgrade this article to Death anxiety, that is Thanatophobia - just as u said. So I support u in adding them to thanatophobia. Plus I put all the theories I found as a researcher. But if I have missed one anyone is welcomed to add. pls forgive me if I'm breaking any rule in haste. I shall request u to proceed with what u are proposing. My english is not very good. After u do the changes, I might help them with my knowledge! Cant it be a group effort Bro?Shoovrow (talk) 14:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Bros, as a physician (and Thanatos psychologist as well) I must clarify that necrophobia is fear of dead and thanatophobia is fear of death, i believe these theories are on fear of death, and not dead. Just tried to be helpful!Shoovrow (talk) 14:24, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY. There have been several small improvements since December 29, 2010 that moves this away from mere essay to article. Bearian (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia is not the place to write personal essays. Spatulli (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.