Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The minaret of the Mosque Jame - Saveh

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The result was merge to Jameh Mosque of Saveh. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:46, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

The minaret of the Mosque Jame - Saveh

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This minaret is part of the Jameh Mosque of Saveh, and that article already has most of the information in this article. In objecting to my PROD nomination, the page creator raised the point that the minaret is not physically attached to the mosque, but sources treat it as part of the mosque complex, e.g.: This majestic mosque comprises of a courtyard, porch, minarets, a few nocturnal areas, dome and two archaic altars with inscription in Kufic script. [1] The minaret is not sufficiently independent of the mosque to warrant its own article. Rublov (talk) 13:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Rublov (talk) 13:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Rublov (talk) 13:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Rublov (talk) 13:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Merge to the mosque article. Structure is associated with the mosque complex and can be described there. Hog Farm _Talk 15:38, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
• Merge >>> Jameh Mosque of Saveh. Djflem (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
• Keep, The article meets notability for the following reasons:

1. This article already stands on its own in Wikipedia Persian and Wikipedia Arabic and has notability.

2. This minaret itself is registered in Iran's National Heritage (as explained in the article).

3. The minaret is outside the mosque and not a part of it.

4. In Iran and neighboring countries minarets normally have their own history and purpose, separate from the surrounding., Alex-h (talk) 09:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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• Merge to Jameh Mosque of Saveh per other merge recommendations. Looking at Google Maps, the minaret appears to be on the mosque grounds just a few feet away; this article is called The minaret of the Mosque Jame - Saveh which certainly suggests a close connection to the mosque. Contrary to the idea that in Iran minarets have their own history and purpose separate from mosques, the sources cited by Alex-h say "The minarets in Iran after converting to Islam have become parts and parcels of the mosques ...." [2] and "Basically, a minaret is a slender tower built at the side of a mosque ...." [3]. Both the article about the minaret and the article about the mosque are short and merging the two would be more helpful than keeping them separate. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
  • By the way, if this minaret really were a separate topic from the mosque, wouldn't it have a separate name of its own? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:21, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
• Merge. I can see no value whatsoever in having two separate articles. The minaret is clearly considered to be part of the mosque, even if it stands on its own. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:21, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• Merge to Jameh Mosque of Saveh as it was suggested Mardetanha (talk) 10:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.