Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Real With Joseph Azarian

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The result was delete. Quite enough evidence for deletion of both DGG ( talk ) 06:53, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Real With Joseph Azarian[edit]

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New show which seems to lack the necessary notability for an article. One article on KCNN, which is part of JGMedia; the show is shown on Next, which is part of JGMedia. No reliable independent sources, very few sources in general. "Next" isn't a complete TV channel, but some part-time channel, online only (I think, it isn't very clear).

JGHoldings, the company behind the channel, is owned by ... Joseph Azarian. Fram (talk) 07:52, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For the same reasons, I have also nominated Joseph Azarian for deletion here in this discussion. Every source about him and his shwos is self-published if you trace back the owners of the different labels, holdings, channels, and so on. 07:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Musa^Talk ☻ 12:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Musa^Talk ☻ 12:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

From what I have seen JGJOLDINGS is an independent firm, I don't know why it would be traced back to him and KCNN Post, also from what I know is celebrity news and gossip site, published by Kids Compiter News Network, independent of the company, which I am unsure of why his page and his show's page would be nominated for deletion, so I am going against Muza... I think it's important to dig deeper as this is from what Iknow it is completely false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.153.135.28 (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Next Entertainment and JG Media is owned by JGHOLDINGS, which from my research is legit. KCNN Post is published by Naseem Nossiff, as the author I don't know where you found JGHOLDINGS to have any ownership with KCNN Post, and I for sure know that it does not as I do work with JGHOLDINGS regularly, @MusaRaza. I can assure you that The Real With Joseph Azarian, great show by the way, I watch it!!, and Joseph Azarian, whom I have met in person, are both legit and are great! I understand that I may not be objective in this as I am with JGHOLDINGS but hopefully I have a bit of insight as to "who owns what here". Cheers! ~~Msnmathco~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msnmathco (talk • contribs) 22:47, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alright guys, I would like to clear a few things up. I've been watching Azarian since the beginning -- he has no stake in JGHOLDINGS and Next Entertainment, although his family does dominate Next Entertainment, a la Kardashians on E!. Next Entertainment is an online streaming channel similar to CBSN but is also available on specific television sets. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why his reality show and his page are nominated for deletion. JGHOLDINGS is a holdings firm, fully legitimate, and definitely not owned by a teenager, Joseph Azarian. I have researched this topic and I can see where you are coming from since it does appear that his family do control the channel, but I am positive that they don't. I hope I cleared a few things up for you! Johnmichaels123 (talk) 22:52, 21 January 2016 (UTC)Johnmichaels123[reply]

Hi everybody! I'm a fan of the show and Joseph and I aided in the creation of the Wikipedia page. I have researched it for a long time, I'm a big fan!! JGHOLDINGS has been around since before Joseph could do long division, User:Fram, so okay... And when I was younger I read KCNN Post, also before Joseph was old enough to do long division! It's completely legit. Hope this helps! Nextentfan (talk) 22:55, 21 January 2016 (UTC)Nextentfan[reply]

Welcome, bunch of unrelated new editors. Nice try, but at the moment you could all read [1] (if someone would try to change it, you can see the same at [2]). What does it say at the top? "It’s no secret that KCNN has become affiliated with JGHOLDINGS". Of course, one doesn't have to go so deep to find the link, the main KCNN page starts with "KCNN Christmas. PART OF THE JGHOLDINGS FAMILY".[3] So obviously you were all mislead and KCNN is a part of JG anyway. So an article on KCNN promoting a show from JGHoldings is not an independent source, bringing the number of independent reliable sources about the show and the person back to zero. By the way, KCNN looks impressive, but seems to have problems. The "About KCNN" link leads to an Error 404 on "http://kcnnparents.jgcontentnetwork.com/404.html" (notice the "jgcontentnetwork" there? What a coincidence). The bottom of every page also states "© 2015 JG Holdings". So please, next time you kids try to impress us by coming here in droves, at least do your homework a bit better. Fram (talk) 07:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —UY Scuti ^Talk 20:53, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both Someone playing "fantasy TV" using a show whose only presence is on Vimeo for $2 (!) an episode, which I'm going to say in no uncertain terms, takes massive cajones to try to do for someone with no presence in popular culture (even our worst hoaxes at least use free websites to pass things through, but paid Vimeo downloads? That's beyond sad), and I don't even have to go deep on Warner Bros. Television being a bit ticked that their show of the same title is having their copyright violated. Even the most two-bit video shows at least do Patreon to fund their shows as a last-resort, and KCNN is woefully terrible as a source. Hilariously WP:COI-packed article that has no place here. Nate • (chatter) 04:08, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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