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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Meets WP:GNG. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Occupation[edit]

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Crystalballing, especially for a computer game many of which are always "about to get released". Slatersteven (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep The article meets the general notability guideline. The EuroGamer article is significant coverage and covers the game in depth. EuroGamer is listed on the WikiProject Video games list of reliable sources WP:VG/RS. WP:Crystal does not apply, as this article is not based on a product announcement or rumour. - X201 (talk) 16:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've added 3 longer sources to the talk page for use, combing past many of the shorter announcement articles. -- ferret (talk) 16:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Seems to meet WP:GNG, if only barely Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:53, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Sources are solid. Merely being unreleased is not grounds to delete an article, non-notability is.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:02, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK a question, what month is it going to be released in? If that date in unknown it is not yet in na fit state for release, which means it may still not be.Slatersteven (talk) 18:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have a release date is not a requirement for meeting the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 19:39, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a requirement, but without a release date we have an unfinished product, thus it may fail wp:crystal.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Slatersteven (talk • contribs) 20:09, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Being an unfinished product is not a reason to fail Crystal. We have articles on products that were never released. - X201 (talk) 20:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
)On the whole ones whose lack of release was historically important. Also otherstuff is not a valid argument for retention. But it looks like I am outvoted so it is all bit moot.Slatersteven (talk) 20:26, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CRYSTAL applies more to far less developed things. Things like Final Fantasy 17, something that will almost certainly exist, but has never officially been announced. Or speculative things, like "Untitled Final Fantasy Project 2019", based off of a comment made by a developer saying something like "Yeah, we'll keep making yearly Final Fantasy games indefinitely" or something. It's not meant to be applied to officially announced products with names, working builds, and reliable third party sources giving hands-on previews on already. Sergecross73 msg me 20:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Have just added Edge info too. It's covered in the latest issue - subscriber copy arrived today - Will add more from it. - X201 (talk) 20:45, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I was leaning keep after digging for sources myself earlier, which brought us to at least 5-6 in depth online sources. Since then, some offline sources have been added as well. Offline source to me, in this day and age, shows a lot, as unlike online webpages they can't just throw out every little tidbit without a care. Undoubtedly, there will be more. At the very worse, the article might be draftified for a while, but I believe it a short while and a waste of time, so Keep. -- ferret (talk) 20:47, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's another offline source on the way, I've just found a two page article in the latest issue of GamesTM too. - X201 (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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