Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Message of the Sphinx

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The result was merge to Graham Hancock. BD2412 T 23:56, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Message of the Sphinx[edit]

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. Hypnôs (talk) 16:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - It has a review at Publishers Weekly, at the very least. I found it was also mentioned in a NYT article from 1997 about various books on fringe theories, but its very brief and would not count as significant coverage. If another actual review from a reliable source can be found, it could potentially pass WP:NBOOK. Otherwise, I would think a Redirect to one of the book's authors' pages would be more appropriate than deletion. Rorshacma (talk) 17:58, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:19, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Archaeology-related deletion discussions. – Joe (talk) 06:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I've had slightly more luck finding sources with the UK title Keeper of Genesis (I've just added two to the article). I'm still undecided whether there's enough. Certainly this book isn't as notable as Fingerprints of the Gods or Magicians of the Gods by the same author. – Joe (talk) 07:00, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Like Rorshacma and Joe Roe I am not really sure. The Publishers Weekly ref is borderline WP:SIGCOV and is WP:RS, whereas the NYT mention is not SIGCOV. I can't fully access the refs Joe Roe linked, but based on a preview search (for the UK title) the refs mention the book four times and twice respectively. Some mentions appear to be just routine listings based on the snippets, so those references probably don't meet WP:SIGCOV but I'm not completely sure. Unfortunately my WP:BEFORE didn't find much. However, given those WP:RS it would be better to merge/redirect somewhere, though I'm unsure which of the two authors is the more plausible target. Also, there are some parts worth WP:PRESERVING but this book is just listed in both two authors' Wikipedia biographical pages in the bibliography/list of works list, a quick mention in the lede, or the infobox, so I am not sure if a merge would be ideal. Therefore, I'm undecided as well. VickKiang (talk) 07:41, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Based on the discussions above I believe this is not quite notable. However, this should be covered at the articles about each author, where their work can be evaluated by the reliable sources that briefly mention them. Archrogue (talk) 18:33, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archrogue, it would help if you specified the Merge target you are proposing. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:24, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please specify the Merge target if you are proposing a Merge or Redirect.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:49, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Merge: To where? The two co-authors interchange top billing. In the US The Message of the Sphinx: A Quest for the Hidden Legacy of Mankind was released with Graham Hancock's name on top and Robert Bauval as a contributor. In the UK Keeper of Genesis places Robert Bauval's name on top (with Graham Hancock) although the article incorrectly uses 1995 as a release date. There were several editions or releases with some minor differences. Mention could be at both places but the book title here is The Message of the Sphinx (A Quest for the Hidden Legacy of Mankind) so I think should certainly be merged to Graham Hancock. -- Otr500 (talk) 20:31, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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