Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Inner Circle (professional wrestling)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:06, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Inner Circle (professional wrestling)

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This is new faction with no proven notability. WP:TOOSOON Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 14:32, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 14:32, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 14:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - It's barely a month old as of this writing and for the most part they can only be described as toadies for Chris Jericho, the only other members thus far to do something relevant are Santana and Ortiz, and they have their own article anyway. If the other members or the group as a whole does something of significance then we could talk, but so far not.--EdgarCabreraFariña (talk) 00:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The members of this group haven't done anything of note yet, and the group is still pretty new. Seems to be WP:TOOSOON to me, but no prejudice against recreation if the group does things that are notable. Hog Farm (talk) 4:11, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Delete As other users siad, it's TOOSOON. Maybe in a few months, but right now, it's too soon. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Does the appearance of Sammy, Santana, and Ortiz at Hager's last Bellator fight, where they were acknowledged as being his stablemates and interviewed by the Bellator broadcasters contribute to their notability as a group? Because that would be significant third-party coverage, in my mind. oknazevad (talk) 11:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Inner Circle is the biggest stable in AEW, with the World Champion. im sure it's gonna be notable. But right now, there is no much content for an article. Maybe in a few weeks/months. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yeah, the article is very short, but length of article has no bearing on notability, which is a property of the subject of the article. It's very possible for an article to poorly demonstrate the notability of a subject. oknazevad (talk) 12:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Obviously has already met notability criteria. It is the primary faction in the promotion. Has been mentioned heavily on every episode. Maintains a large membership. Appeared at non-AEW events. Has 500K hits on google and several sources from a variety of publications including Forbes, CBS Sports, and Newsweek.Will C 07:47, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I'm tempted to vote delete due to the stable's relative newness and lack of accomplishments, but I have ultimately decided to lean to the option of keeping the article. It's obvious that the stable is going to be built up strongly in AEW, so it is probably better to keep the article rather than deleting it, and then remaking it when the group accrues more accolades and/or experience as a unit. As Wrestlinglover pointed out, the group already has a strong base of notability due to it having many hits on Google. So for now, I'm leaning towards a keep, but if anyway has any strong points on why it should be deleted other than WP:TOOSOON, I may change my mind. - Ducktech89 19 November 2019, 11:08 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus is roughly split equally between keeping and deleting. More input is required.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:15, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 1 month is most certainly enough, especially when this faction is involving all notable wrestlers. No need to delete just for recreating one day. Shashank5988 (talk) 13:56, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.