Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Holy Roman Empire of Japanada

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete, per CSD A7. --Eyrian 14:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Holy Roman Empire of Japanada

Wkipedia is not for things made up in school. Zero google results for "The Holy Roman Empire of Japanada", while "Japanada" returns nothing but irrelevant results. Impossible to source, non-notable. Creator removed prod and prod2 tags with an impassioned plea to keep, but this doesn't belong here. Resolute 04:28, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete, total hoax, returns bupkis on Google. The opening sentence says it all: "The Holy Roman Empire of Japanada was a simple, silly idea created in a classroom game back in 2001, and since then has now become a withstanding tradition at a YMCA Summer Camp, as a home-away-from-home for several counselors." Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 04:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a reason that there are no results for "Japanada", or anything as such on google, and that's because I've never written anything about it before. This was my first attempt. And as stated, yes, it may sound silly, but it's not anymore. It's grown into something much stronger than that.

I have people asking me daily to make a wikipedia page about "Japanada", and if oyu want me to get people to e-mail you to prove this i will, just tell me an address they need to send it to and I'll get you a ton of people to e-mail you about it.

If you need citation from others about this story, then i can get those people to e-mail you as well. This stopped being a silly story years ago, now it is something that effects thousands of kids a year, who constantly ask me each and every summer why there isn't anything online back home that they can read about.

This is me trying to get it to them, so I'm asking as nicely as I can, please keep this article. This isn't a joke, or someone messing with you. It is something that tones of people are asking for, children, parents, and friends alike.

Thanks for your time,

Heath Lynch

[email protected]

also, just thought of this:

If i got YMCA Camp Lakewood, to cite for this, if I got them to email you in some way, would that count as a credible cited source?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by The goonie (talk • contribs).

Honestly, I do not believe it would. You would still be the primary source for the information, and are evidently in a conflict of interest with this article. For something to be notable, it would have to have been written about by an 'independent reliable source. Resolute 04:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's very true, and understandable, I will not deny that I would like to see this page go up just cause it would make me happy, but that's not the reason I am doing this. I'm doing this because today along I've had 3 counselors, and 12 campers ask me why there isn't anything about "Japanada" online. And since I'm the most knowledgeable about it, I figured I should write it.

My only questions now is though, if it's because I wrote it, then, technically, I could just get someone at camp, who works full time at camp, and is not associated with me to write it, and it'd be okay then? Cause that's what it seams like you are saying. Again, I could be wrong, but that just doesn't make sense if all I need is someone more credible to write the article.

I have to go now, cause I have to get sleep to deal with campers all day tomorrow. Please keep replying, I would really like to find a way to make this article possible.

Heath

Delete If you wish to write about this, try geocities, blogger, or any of thousands of other free web hosts. They are the places you're looking for, not Wikipedia. FrozenPurpleCube 05:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, no, asking someone else to write it would not mean there isn't a conflict of interest, in fact, that sort of thing is very much a conflict, and highly frowned upon in many cases. The key is to have third-party independent sources first. Which from what I can tell, you're not going to have, so you're best off following my suggestion instead. FrozenPurpleCube 05:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Just because someone asks you to write about a subject doesn't mean it's notable. If you want to start an Urban Dictionary page, or a Yahoo! Group, or a MySpace page, or something else about Japanada, go ahead; knock yourself out. We're trying to run an encyclopedia here. Also, if you start a MySpace group about Japanada, there's no risk of people coming into your group and disrupting it with articles about Richardsonian Romanesque architecture, for example. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 05:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as hoax. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 06:16, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- Wikipedia is not for things...aw, you know the drill. --Haemo 06:28, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete per nom. Q ^{T C} 06:28, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is just an imaginary idea that people talk about at a single summer camp, with no sources to establish its notability. If the campers want something to be written about this idea online, there are other websites where that can be done, but Wikipedia is not one of them. --Metropolitan90 06:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Strong delete, no notability whatsoever. --Malcolmxl5 07:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete There are major problems with this article. Firstly it is unverifiable. Secondly, it has no reliable sources. Thirdly, the article sounds like a hoax. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 07:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Write your idea down, have it published, get lucrative film rights, have it known worldwide, then it will be Wiki-worthy. Mjtauthor 07:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete - You don't get much more "things made up in school" than this; it even says it in the first line. It's cute, sure, but it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. The editor needs to go and take a look at WP:NOT. -- Hux 08:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This topic is not suitable for an encyclopedia article. As a couple of users have suggested, it would be fun to post on a personal web site at a host such as Geocities. Fg2 11:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.