Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Government in 24 (TV)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Balloonman (talk) 01:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Government in 24 (TV)

The page re-creats Information avaliable else where on wikipedia. It does not add any value to the encyclopedia as a whole and would be better suited to 24 Wikia. The page is virtually orphaned andis not linked on any of the major 24 pages. The page is also in horrible need of upadting, activity levels are low and it contains a large amount of original research. I think the following policies are voilated with this page, WP:NOTABLE, WP:NOT#INFO and although not strictly policy WP:FAN Lucy-marie (talk) 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletions. —User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fancruft, no assertion of notability or referencing. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep While I don't like individual articles for episodes or characters, this article is a concise way of clearing up some of the confusion in a very complicated hit TV show. A U.S. President is a major character in each of the different 24-hour days that make up the different seasons of "24". This doesn't contain anymore OR than any of the other TV articles. The only part I agree with is that it hasn't been updated and may be orphaned. Maybe someone (not I) can fix it in the next 24 hours. Mandsford (talk) 02:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I agree that the article seems to cut through some confusion on what is admittedly a hard show to follow from the outside. I have to believe, though, that this sort of material is contained elsewhere in a similar form. I'll look for it. I note, too, that a similar article, Regional Division Director at CTU, is also nominated for deletion here, and I think that's a separate case because (comparatively), that character is much less prominent than the president, as discussed in this article. ZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 15:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and tag as "sub-article" of 24 (TV series). As it stands now it looks thrown-together in a sort of OR way, but I think it could be cleaned up. 24 is a big enough phenomenon that legitimate information needs to get spun off into daughter articles. It needs to be rewritten and thoroughly sourced, though. I would also recommend a move, maybe to United States Federal Government (24) or somesuch. For comparison, see Initiative (Buffyverse) and Alliance (Firefly). - Revolving Bugbear 15:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no real world information, and the important information is already covered in other articles. -- Ned Scott (talk) 07:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Complete fancruft with no real world information. If we let this stay, we are inviting all fiction fans to create a page on whatever they see fit. asyndeton (talk) 10:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Only if WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS becomes a valid reason to keep an article. All articles are assessed on their own merits, not on articles which came before. - Revolving Bugbear 18:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fancruft trivia. RMHED (talk) 22:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.