Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Getaway (video game sequel)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to The Getaway (series). Courcelles 16:55, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Getaway (video game sequel)[edit]

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1. This video game is vaporware; it does not exist. (I have seen many other Wiki articles for games that actually exist deleted due to lack of notability.)
2. This video game is mentioned in the Wiki article " The Getaway (series)"; that's sufficient for a non-existent game.
3. The title of this Wiki article is ridiculous, which demonstrates that the article detracts from the overall quality of Wikipedia. ProResearcher (talk) 11:01, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1) Could we please have the reliable reference that you're using that proves it doesn't exist. It will be helpful in adding to the other references that already prove notability. Supposedly being "vapourware" is not a valid reason for deletion, usually the opposite. What happens to other articles is equally not of importance (WP:OTHERSTUFF)

2) If you think it would be better if the article were merged into the series article, then why nominate it for deletion? Point 6 on the "Before nominating an article for deletion" section of the AFD page should have leapt out at you.

3) Disagreeing with an article name is, again, not grounds for deletion. If you think the article would be better located at The Getaway 3 then you could have raised it on the article talk page or at the Wikipedia Video Games Project (WT:VG)

I can see no problem with the article's current form that warrants its deletion. - X201 (talk) 11:28, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) X201 (talk) 11:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC) - X201 (talk) 11:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are wasting my time, X201, which would be better spent cleaning up other messes in Wikipedia.

"Could we please have the reliable reference that you're using that proves it doesn't exist."

Did you read the article? It includes a reference. In the meantime, please give me a reliable reference that proves orcs or any other non-existent beings don't exist.

"better if the article were merged into the series article"

The series article already contains a sufficient amount of information for a vaporware game.

"you could have raised it on the article talk page"

CLEARLY, you did not read the article. I already put it on the talk page before your comment (check the datetime stamps).

ProResearcher (talk) 15:43, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You misunderstand my point. The article contains reliable references that prove the game has not been cancelled. The game is in development which has currently been paused whilst Sony London focus on other titles, it has not been cancelled. WP:VG have hundreds of articles on games that are in development, and as long as they meet the requirements of an article; such as reliable sourcing etc, the fact those games have not yet been released is not a viable reason for deleting them.

Regarding your talk page post - Placing your views on a discussion page at 10:40 and then proposing the article for deletion nine minutes later is not conducive to the spirit of discussion and consensus building that WP is built upon. - X201 (talk) 07:55, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge – The sequel generated some news, but there's not really enough information about the game to warrant a full article. I think it should be merged into the series article and a redirect created, or left as it. --Odie5533 (talk) 13:18, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - There is not enough information for this to have it's own Wikipedia page. Plus, the video game was put on hold in 2009 and now it is 2011 and there is still no announcement it will come out. I think it needs to be merged at least until it is actually released.Housewatcher (talk) 06:05, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to The Getaway (series). Not even material to warrant its own article, but the information itself is clearly notable. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:34, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to series. Clearly not enough coverage to warrant its own article. Axem Titanium (talk) 11:55, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.