Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Forgotten (Green Day song)

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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 21:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Forgotten (Green Day song)

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Contested PROD (nominated by a different editor) for the fallacious reason of all songs deserve articles. Original concern was "Lack of notability, the song has never been released as a single or promotional single. Not all songs with music videos require an article, and in this songs case that is the only notable thing about it." — Richard BB 22:05, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This song peaked at #11 on the Japan Hot 100, which satisfies the notability guideline for songs. T C N7JM 10:36, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per TCN7JM - verifiable in reliable sources that the song hit a national music chart, so meets criteria 1 of WP:NSONG Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:41, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The song was never released as a single or promotional singe, and the source's that say it has charted, say it has charted through digital downloads from ¡Tré!, not as its own single. There are other Green Day songs that were released in similar circumstances (such as Macy's Day Parade) which had articles that was deleted for the same reasons. --Ral539(talk) 01:59, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NSONG mentions nothing about being a single or an album, merely that it has to appear in a music or sales chart of significance. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 08:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It really doesn't matter considering it isn't a notable song anyway. It really isn't deserving of its own article when other songs in Green Day's catalogue that are significant had articles that were closed for "lack of notability". This song really lacks anything significant that makes it deserving of its own article, and it listed in the discography page that this song charted. In fact everything mentioned in this article has already been mentioned in other articles. --Ral539(talk) 10:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The guideline quite specifically states that songs that have charted on a major chart are notable enough for their own articles, which this one did. Your argument against notability seems to be that everything in this article was already said somewhere else, which isn't true either. Some stuff, notably the content in the Reception section, seems to be unique to this article. T C N7JM 10:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Not only has the song charted, but also has significant coverage through this source [1], which is actually cited in the article. In fact, according to that source, it was released as a single from that Twilight album. I never seen anyone arguing that it's not a single at all, other than here on Wikipedia. But even if wasn't released as a single, that doesn't justify the article being deleted, as long as it passes the notability guidelines. Kokoro20 (talk) 06:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Due to high charting in multiple countries, satisfies WP:NSONGS. STATic message me! 17:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The song is definitely notable. Koala15 (talk) 18:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.