Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fall of Mahkinoc

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The result was Delete. DES ^(talk) 14:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Fall of Mahkinoc[edit]

An article on a self-published book. Fails WP:BK Victoriagirl 21:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's not self published, since tate publishing is more than just Frank Wacholtz, but I supose it really isn't peticularly notable either, since it's not to popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JLAF (talk • contribs)

Comment The publisher in question, Tate Publishing, appears on a list of vanity presses within the Vanity press article. That said, per WP:BK "self-publication and/or publication by a vanity press is indicative, but not determinative of non-notability". Victoriagirl 16:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am inclined to agree with the point about notability, if web hits are any indicator. I got primary sources, retail listings and trivial mentions. Adrian M. H. 17:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Tate publishing appears to be a publish on demand press. They make claims that the reject 95% of books, they invest lots of money in advertizing etc., but what is clear is that they charge authors $4,000 to publish. [1]. Presses that charge to publish are not reputable in my book. Putting that aside, I cannot find any reliable sources covering this book; it's ranked at 2,631,478 at amazon; and I failed to find it at the Library of Congress or on Worldcat, despite locating its isbn (1598863932).--Fuhghettaboutit 14:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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