Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Daily of the University of Washington
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. John254 22:02, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Contested prod. Article is about a nonnotable student publication at the University of Washington. The paper is part of the larger Associated Students of the University of Washington, so a small amount of material could be merged there. As it is, the article serves as an advertisement and/or to stroke the egos of one or more student editors. The awards they've won are nonnotable or purely incidental and are not worth dedicating an entire article for one sentence about an apple award they won once. The rest of the article is pure original research or traces back to a single source on the paper's own webpage. No other third party sources exist. All OR (and irrelevant text about bureaucratic oversight) removed, this article would be reduced to a few sentences about their history and one about the awards they won. Again, this could be easily compressed to a subcategory under ASUW. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Question: I may be missing something here, but how is the school's indepedent Daily student newspaper "part of the larger ASUW" (student government)? I'm not seeing any connection. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 20:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and close debate.
No notability on its own doesn't mean the publication isn't notable within the context of the university.If it's not related to the student union, it can be merged in University of Washington. In either case, there's no case for deletion and merges are not supposed to be discussed here. - Mgm|(talk) 21:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- The awards establish notability. - Mgm|(talk) 23:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Calm down. Mergers are discussed at AFD as a means of preventing unnecessary article forks. The Daily is run by and is organized within the ASUW. Its funding and its oversight are maintained by that organization. It's a registered student organization with the ASUW and so would fit within those sections of that article. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I see no reason that two articles can't exist, one for the student government, and one for the campus newspaper published at the University of Washington. As the article notes, the newspaper has won awards. However, I would also point out that in universities with their own journalism program (at UW, the Department of Communications, which has a masters and doctoral program), the newspaper is part of the preparation for a career in the field. Mandsford (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and close debate.
- Strong Keep and close debate It's a daily indepedent newspaper at a major State university. Deletion should not be considered. Just to make sure, I see that many other similiar newspapers have articles, as expected 1, 2, 3 --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not solid reasoning. The fact other articles exist doesn't mean they (or this one) should.-Mgm|(talk) 23:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The Daily is nowhere near the caliber or history of those papers. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not solid reasoning. The fact other articles exist doesn't mean they (or this one) should.-Mgm|(talk) 23:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The awards are impressive, and sufficient to establish notability. -- Eastmain (talk) 23:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The awards are actually unimpressive. They're put there to justify writing an article around them, but they don't give any credibility or notability to the paper itself. The apple award itself is a nonnotable journalistic achievement for small college tabloids within a very small region. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as for other principal newspapers of major newspapers of major universities. And the awards meet all possible requirements. for notability, however, interpreted--I reminded the nom. about the awards when I deprodded the article, but it was brought here anyway. DGG (talk) 00:06, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The awards aren't notable. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- And only the least among them is sourced. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I added a reference for the 2007 Apple Award.--Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —TerriersFan (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as a principal newspaper of a major university, which has received substantial awards. Clearly meets WP:N requirements. Jerry delusional ¤ kangaroo 02:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as the only major student newspaper at the University. Definitely falls under WP:N given its wide readership (even if only for the sudoku). Dgtljunglist (talk) 00:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Major newspaper of the university with over 100 year history with several notable awards. It's difficult to quickly find sources on Google as the newspaper itself is a GoogleNews source but I think we should have an article and this is a reasonable start. DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:28, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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