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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Can be restored for userfication if anybody is really interested in salvaging and merging some content. Sandstein 13:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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While very well researched, this is an essay rather than an encyclopedic article. The article name itself presupposes that Soviet Russia was instrumental in the modern movement of political correctness, which is a proposition, not a hard fact. Kansan (talk) 16:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or move. The article is mostly about activities of Willi Münzenberg, not about political correctness. GreyHood Talk 18:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Userfy - This is an Original Research topic to end all Original Research topics, anachronistically using not one but two concepts (Bolshevik, Political Correctness). That would make this an easy call for deletion, based upon the title. The contents don't reflect the title, however — it contains substantial material on Willi Münzenberg, and not all bad. There is material of worth here by a new content contributor who seems to be really trying to footnote properly, etc., about a substantive topic. Long-term editor Rich Farmbrough has intervened to help with copy and style editing, I see from the edit history. I will be getting in touch with the new editor to see if I can help out with questions, etc. This absolutely needs to be removed from mainspace as (a) an original research topic name with heavy POV overtones; (b) not a valid search term; (c) content not reflected by the title which would represent a fork of Willi Münzenberg if properly titled. However, this should NOT, emphatically NOT, be deleted outright under the principle of Don't Bite the Newcomers, but rather userfied to the creator's page so that worthwhile material can be ported over to the appropriate locations without loss of work. Carrite (talk) 18:14, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge OR designed to grind a particular point of view, namely that contemporary leftists use Bolshevik tactics. A no brainer delete, although as noted above, certain material could be added to the Munzenberg article. Nwlaw63 (talk) 20:24, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge with existing articles. In the main this seems to be a wildly ahistorical heavily biased piece that does not attempt to acknowledge the accepted concensus on Bolshevism or Political Correctness. If there are a few new facts, they can be added to the existing articles, for example on Willi Münzenberg. Sionk (talk) 00:34, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Userfy Carrite is absolutely correct, politically or not. :-) -Steve Dufour (talk) 01:38, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Userfy or delete I think that we need a guideline or policy to match WP:N and WP:V called "WP:Identifiability", although WP:Fringe goes to the point when it says, "Wikipedia is not and must not become the validating source for non-significant subjects." Similar issues were discussed at WP:Articles for deletion/City Seminary, where the closing admin kept a topic whose name identifiability only existed in local slang. A related discussion is occurring at WP:Articles for deletion/Archdiocese of the Goths. In each case, there was something notable or reliable, but the article topic itself failed wp:identifiability. The absence of citations in the lede of this article and the failure of the body of the article to use the word "correctness" confirm that this article is incoherent. If the author (or someone) doesn't request the userfy, then the article has no value to the project and can be deleted. Unscintillating (talk) 19:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to CF and WM. Rich Farmbrough, 02:52, 5 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Merge or Userfy - Some good information here, would be rather wasteful to just get rid of it all together. Some info here could be merged to Willi Münzenberg, as others have suggested. -waywardhorizons (talk) 17:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The only good reason for this article to stay is to serve as an ideal illustration of what OR/SYNTH looks like. Delete or userfy. Salvage whatever is salvageable, but most of this should go.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 5, 2011; 19:45 (UTC)
- Delete I don't think there's salvageable content in this POV essay. DGG ( talk ) 05:08, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.