Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tam Sheang Tsung (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. czar 01:20, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tam Sheang Tsung[edit]

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Player fails WP:NFOOTBALL as he hasn't played in a professional league. HawkAussie (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:00, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and SALT, still non-notable six years after last AFD! Giant Snowman 07:34, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Subject played for Melaka United under Malaysia Super League which qualified under Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues guideline. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment He signed to Melaka United but he didn't play which is also part of the guidelines. HawkAussie (talk) 00:27, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Article indicates that player did not play for Melaka in the MSL so fails NFOOTY unless evidence can be found to prove that he did play at top level. Doesn't qualify for GNG, either. No Great Shaker (talk) 10:07, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep – These are kind of significant coverage: NST and The Star (created history when he became the first Malaysian to be recruited into Japan’s J-League ... made a name for himself as the youngest footballer in Japanese professional league history). These aren't sigcov but nevertheless suggest notability to me: Goal.com (highly rated Malaysian winger ... Malaysian wonderkid) and Yahoo Sports (Arguably the biggest move in this round-up as MUFC penned a deal with Tam Sheang Tsung.) These are admittedly pretty weak, but I can't help but wonder if we'd find better GNG sources in Japanese, Chinese or Malay. – Levivich 18:30, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 22:01, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The references and rationale in the above less than weak keep does not add up to crossing a threshold of minimum notability for WP:ANYBIO, as this is a BLP, and subject apparently fails NFOOTY. More than a little career content entailing seven years (2012 to current), or nine references, are needed to present actual notability and provide more than a pseudo biography. A lack of additional references because they possibly just weren't found might be a concern (are they out there and we missed them) if a low minimum threshold of notability was even approachable. A source can be fantastic for content, while not providing anything towards notability, so WP:CBALL or WP:PROVEIT doesn't even need to be considered. While trivia is interesting, being a member of the "youngest in the history of class" would be relevant as an add-on to notability not a determining criterion and "he came on the 88th minute in a 1-0 loss.", doesn't do it either. A want or need to list every sports person in the world needs to be held to every "notable" sports person and if we have to grasp at straws...? --- "kind of significant coverage" or "aren't sigcov" is too minimum of even a lowered bar. Otr500 (talk) 12:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NFOOTY failure. Number 5 7 21:31, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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