Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Talzhemir

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The result of the debate was delete. Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 01:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talzhemir

She isn't notable. Nothing here stands out. It's a vanity piece. --Jason Gastrich 05:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete. Per nom. --Jason Gastrich 05:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Jason, you were the nominator. I don't think you have to vote again.

Neat trick, looks like two votes that way. Ruby 06:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, using the adjective "strong" is neither necessary nor useful when nominating. Sliggy 17:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, we don't count it twice. Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 01:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom. Dlyons493 Talk 05:31, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non notable. Crunch 05:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and Crunch. These are okay Jason, but no more presidents of Angola. Ruby 05:53, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. --Ter e nc e Ong 06:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Just to be contrarian. More seriously if she co-founded something that has an article I think that gives a bit of justification. Added to that four articles and a list link here and "'Talzhemir'-wikipedia" gets a good deal of hits.[1] Possibly they are all for the other Talzhemir's out there, but I'll play it safe and go weakly for keep.--T. Anthony 07:33, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - contrary to the opinion of the previous vote, I do not think 8k google hits is very much at all. What notability criteria listed in WP:BIO does this person satisfy? --Pierremenard 10:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's making sure to minus anything with the word "wikipedia" in it. I think if this is deleted there should be consideration of deleting the things that link here or articles on games she created. Because if she's non-notable than presumably it means those are also non-notable.--T. Anthony 12:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree. A game may be notable, without its designer being notable. --Pierremenard 13:46, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How would you feel about merging some of this with Dragon's Eye Productions as the article is quite small so adding information on leading figures won't make it huge or anything.--T. Anthony 16:22, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That would probable be a good idea. --Pierremenard 23:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this one really should go. --Bduke 11:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, article does not establish significance or notability. Sliggy 17:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If there's anything worth merging, Merge, otherwise Delete, per above. --kingboyk 18:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, despite bad faith nomination. It seems to me that a "vanity piece" is one that is written by a person for that same person. - WarriorScribe 21:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as nn-bio (just to show I'm not just reflexively voting "keep" on Jason Gastrich's nominations). MCB 23:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, but note the WP:POINT violation. Harvestdancer 02:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as non-notable, or slight merge to the company. However, I still think that AFDing every other atheist in the Wikipedia is WP:POINT. Stifle 16:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as it fails the Newsbank/Proquest test. Calwatch 04:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As stated above, this is not a vanity piece because I'm not her. I started this short bio because she's a notable person for several reasons: She was one of the two people who founded Dragon's Eye Productions and Furcadia, a unique online game which has an estimated 60,000 players (and continuing to grow after 9 years). She is a prolific writer and artist, contributing to many games (some that I didn't mention because of respect for her privacy). She also writes extensively on the subjects of conservation and Atheism (which is why I put Atheist in the categories), and esoteric subjects like Bog iron (notice in the external links on that page, there's a link to something she wrote on bog iron. That link was there long before I started editing Wikipedia). Besides, almost 8,000 hits (these are all her, I checked a random sampling of them) is nothing to sniff at. Other people involved in video games like Jukka Tapanimäki and Chuck Bueche have much fewer google results, and yet they have undisputed articles on Wikipedia. For the above reasons, Talzhemir is definately notable and worthy of a short Wikipedia article, and I wish I could've made my case before so many people voted (I was away from computers for a few days). Oh well... -kotra 08:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Kotra. TestPilot 05:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.