Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syed Ali Khansahib Bukhari

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 09:08, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Syed Ali Khansahib Bukhari

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After removing some unrelated sources that don't mention the subject ([1] [2]), as well as some spam and a Google Maps entry (not going to link here), there are only two sources left: a commercial website for the shrine of this Sufi saint (fails WP:INDEPENDENT) and Walter Roper Lawrence's book The Valley of Kashmir, which I've searched but doesn't seem to mention the apparently obscure saint. I've searched both Google Scholar and normal Google for a reliable source to rewrite the article, but I've found none (some hits concern 'Ala' al-Din al-Bukhari, who is a different person), which makes me think that the subject does not meet our notability criteria. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 14:48, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hii, so it has lack of reliable sources?? Ttttt321 (talk). 15:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Part of the problem is that that the article has been done so badly, without specific citations to reliable sources (or any sources) that I cannot even tell if the article is a spoof. For example, if you are going to cite a book, you could at least provide page numbers. If you are going to cite a news site, you could at least provide the article title and the date of the article.
The only useful citations I could find in the article were the "shrine's" business site and google maps which at least confirmed that there was some sort of "shrine" to Syed Ali Alaa-Ud-Din in the village of Chewdara, which is in Budgam district, J&K. The Google maps link also told me that there was a "shrine" to Syed Said-ud-Dun on the same plot of land. So I looked at District Budgam, Places of Interest, which says:

"TOMB OF SYED TAJ-UD-DIN AND SYED ALLA-UD-DIN"

"ACCORDING to a legend, when Syed Taj-ud-Din arrived in Khag, the Mala Kol silently followed him from Sukh Nag to Skinderpora. Syed Taj-ud-Din first arrived in Sukh Nag where he stayed for long, and later, crossing various villages, reached Skinderpora, where he spend the rest of his life. Following his death, the mantle of spiritual guidance of people fell on his son, Syed Alla-ud-Din, who was equally a pious soul. The tombs of both the father and son, are situated in Skinderpora and attract a large number of devotees."

Skinderpora is not shown on Google maps, but a census document for the district reveals that "Iskineder Pora" is probably an alternative spelling, and that does show on Google maps^[3] - but is a village 8.6 miles (13.8 km) from Chewdara. In summary, there is not enough information to know whether the article is a spoof or not, let alone the far more ambitious task of establishing notability.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 10:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Fails WP:SIGCOV at best. At worst, could potentially be a WP:HOAX given that many of the sources in the article don't actually mention the subject and no independent sources can be located.4meter4 (talk) 22:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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