Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sundara Purushan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Sourcing has been provided. While the GNG is a decent way to determine notability, consensus indicates that there are natural difficultes if using that as the only rule by which to measure notability of an Indian film topic which pre-dates the internet, as we are also allowed to consider other criteria. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sundara Purushan[edit]

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Non-notable film according to the GNG and WP:MOVIE. I did a search for sources and didn't come up with anything of note. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – A Tamil film released during the pre-internet era. Google books search yields this result. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 10:32, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It looks to be just a directory (thought I can't read it; this is just judging from the title) of films, which would just prove it isn't a hoax, rather than that the film is notable. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is a mention about this film in Oneindia.in. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 10:54, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Article is weakly written and contains multiple issues. If an editor that is familiar with the topic were willing to expand on the article, I'd revise my stance, but there are no concrete references and a google search results in references to this page, or youtube links that may or may not be related to the movie, but no definitive links for at least 3 pages deep. In my book it does not meet WP:V or WP:N in my book. LTC b2412 Troops Talk RFC Inbox 13:45, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak ~~Delete~~ Keep. Yes sources are difficult to find, but we should not be biased towards online sources, especially films as old as this. Unfortunately, from what I can find, it seems that this film didn't make much of an impact even within India, so unless someone finds sources, or even evidence, that say otherwise, I don't know if it can be considered notable. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:31, 11 September 2012 (UTC) However, with the sources given by Mspraveen below, which seem to prove that the film was quite successful, it should probably have an article. Unfortunately, with films as old as this, sources are usually difficult to find, and this is a problem that we should solve. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 10:05, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment. I'd like to hear what the other editors think of the source which Vensatry presented. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 10:06, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. As I can't actually read the book, I can't say for sure whether it is significant coverage or just a mere mention. However, the link says that the film's title only appears once in the whole book, which implies that it is not reliable coverage. Even if it were reliable coverage, it's only one source, not enough to establish notability. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:01, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ Keep: I can find a considerable number of sources, both from books and news searches, talking about the film. Secret of success (talk) 11:35, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've checked the Google News sources and they're only mentions, not about the actual film itself. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:44, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is sufficient enough for a pre-Internet film. Secret of success (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you chuck up a couple of links so we know what sources yo're working with? Callanecc (alt) (talk) 07:46, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can see links below in Mspraveen's comment. For more, check out the Google news search. Secret of success (talk) 11:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:FILM. Lacks the substantial secondary WP:RS that would be required to establish notability. Qworty (talk) 20:51, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. The film was remade into Telugu with a title Andala Ramudu. A quick search about this film threw references of Sundara Purushan as a hit/blockbuster. See 1, 2, 3. Mspraveen (talk) 04:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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