Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Wozniak (actor)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 22:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Wozniak (actor)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Non-notable actor. This page was created as vanity page by WP:SPA account Hazmanager (talk · contribs) (note subject's company is "Hazmat Pictures", although Hazmanager has recently tried to remove that information ([1]), perhaps to conceal the COI). The only substantive content has come from creating editor and anonymous IP editors, which may be the same user.

PROD was declined by the creating editor, with no reason provided (edit summary was "External links").

It seems to be a magnet for COI edits from the originating editor. For example, Hazmanager has attempted to fluff the article by using deceptively edited quotes (see [2] for a correction); has removed the article issues template without addressing the issues ([3], [4]); and blanked the talk page ([5]).

The COI issue isn't independently a basis for deletion -- the basis for deletion is the non-notability of the subject. But it's indicative that no one except the article's subject seems to have any belief that the article's presence is warranted. TJRC (talk) 15:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. —TJRC (talk) 15:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Was that PROD "declined" by mistake as you and that editor had an near edit collission? --Zarutian (talk) 19:20, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, my edit followed his. TJRC (talk) 19:57, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Delete Although as witer/director/actor/producer, Wozniak's career[6] is pushing up at WP:ENT... it seems all he receiving are mentions... [7][8][9]... and not in what Wikipedia considers RS. And even in the Sun Times an actual RS,[10] , its only a mention. His manager is trying a bit too hard to create and fluff what is not yet worth creating. Perhaps when this individual recieves some personal recognition for his work a far leaner version of this article might be worth considering. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:36, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not convinced of his notability, but he's certainly versatile-- in 2005, he played the roles of a "Frankie the wayward sociopath" and "Jesus, the savior of all mankind" in the same year. Mandsford (talk) 16:00, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep There are multiple appearances throughout television and film, thus satisfying notability for an actor, the article does need some work in that it appears clearly to be a vanity piece. Noteability is established though. Charles F Groves 18:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

All that has to be seen is the IMDB page [11]; Mr. Wozniac has been involved in numerous films, as an Actor, Writer, Director, and Producer. Each in numerous projects. Seems notable to me. All of these or the ones i have checked anyway have been credited in the projects themselves as well. Frankly I do not understand all of the votes for delete, and I see the comments above, and I agree that the article could be leaner and a bit better referenced, however being as involved in as many aspects of the entertainment industry should count for something.Charles F Groves 21:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Comment I do not believe IMDb should be considered a reliable source, see IMDB#Sources_of_data. --Nuujinn (talk) 16:06, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As the nom, my basis is that he does not meet WP:GNG: "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Nuujinn points out issues with IMDB as a RS; I would also add that, even if reliable, IMDB is pretty much a catalog and cross-referencing of actors, directors, etc. with the works in/with which they have worked. Presence in IMDB is not in itself an indication of notability. More specifically, he doesn't appear to meet WP:ENT. The closest is probably "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." He's been in a lot of works, but none of them appear particularly notable. A couple have Wikipedia articles, but some of those are questionable stubs created by the same editor who created this article. They're harmless, though; they probably ought to be deleted, but they're not hurting anything. This one, however, is using Wikipedia as a puff piece and promotional vehicle, contrary to the purpose of the encyclopedia. If it were a harmless stub, rather than a WP:PROMO and WP:COI magnet, with the same editor continuing to puff it, I probably would not have bothered bringing it to AFD. TJRC (talk) 17:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete For the number of roles he has had, it seems like more notice should have been taken of him. But I can't find anything written ABOUT him at all. Admittedly it is hard to search Google for him, since stuff keeps turning up instead about the far-more-notable Steve Wozniak of Apple Computers. --MelanieN (talk) 01:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I can't find any reliable sources establishing notability. --Nuujinn (talk) 16:06, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.