Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanley Armour Dunham

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The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stanley Armour Dunham

Delete Don't know how he is notable. Teckgeek (talk) 04:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep don't delete. Look at it that have many times clicked the artickle?.--Yeniler (talk) 03:34, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Don't delete this page. He helped raise Barack Obama, Jr., who had no other male father figure in his life. If anything, a lot more information should be put in here.

Keep DON'T DELETE this page. BHO is an important Cultural and Political figure to the U.S.A. and the world. It is inspiring to know the family he sprung from just as it is to know that of Abraham Lincoln. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.68.145.238 (talk) 13:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that there are certain figures in Barack Obama's life who have been important to him, but I think it is not logical to have articles about them on Wikipedia, as it fails to meet notability guidelines. Have a look at the discussion on the talk page. We don't include people just because their grandchildren become famous in one way. If we do, then Wikipedia will turn into a pile of unwanted biographies in a matter of time. Teckgeek (talk) 23:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per nom this person really isn't notable on their own. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 18:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge with Madelyn Dunham back into a joint article. This page seems to be floating here outside of standard AfD set-up, and should state that Stanley Armour Dunham was previously a part of Madelyn and Stanley Dunham which was split to form two separate articles, more or less by consensus. I thought that we absolutely should have an article on Obama's maternal grandparents who raised him and about whom much has been written, but that since we don't have a lot of material about Stanley alone, having a joint article was fine. But I do think that both of them are sufficiently notable, so I would either keep this one or merge it back into a renamed Madelyn and Stanley Dunham article. Tvoz/talk 19:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. -- I'^mperator 20:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep It is well sourced and I believe to pass the notability test. Basket of Puppies 20:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Barack Obama had to become a presidential candidate for the media to get interested in this person, but it happened, and that's enough to make him notable despite WP:NOTINHERITED. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 20:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or Keep: I would prefer to see Madelyn and Stanley Dunham re-instated, rather than having seperate articles for each individual, but I would also support keeping this article, because it meets notability guidelines by virtue of multiple reliable mentions. However, it is extremely important to keep WP:NOTINHERITED in everyone's minds when considering this AfD. The mere fact that he is BHO's maternal grandfather does NOT automatically grant him notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jo7hs2 (talk • contribs)

Keep I see notability and enough RS to make an article. remove anything you consider not verified and tag as appropriate Chzz ► 23:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sufficient close to head of state to be notable, and there is sufficient usable material. DGG (talk) 23:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and merge Not notable enough to warrant his own article, I say delete this and merge the material to Barack Obama or a more general article on Obama's family. --Pstanton (talk) 00:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:Merge and delete. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't know in what universe this is non-notable. For Wikipedia purpose, the subject's notability has been established by independent reliable sources. --J.Mundo (talk) 16:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He has a place in the American public's mind greater than others with undisputed articles. Lizzie Harrison 20:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This has been hashed out at least twice before, and since then, Obama has served as president for 3 months. He has noted his grandfather, who raised him, several times in speeches. Normally, notability is not inherited, but this exception proves the rule. Close relatives of the POTUS may be notable, depending on their influence - even after death. Bearian (talk) 21:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KeepNotability may not be inherited but we're talking about the man who practically raised the first black man to be elected to the most powerful political position in the world! I've seen much flimsier claims to notability that have flown, sop why shouldn't this one?? HJ Mitchell (talk) 16:13, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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