Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Cecilia High School (Nebraska)

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The result was keep. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 13:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

St. Cecilia High School (Nebraska)

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Does not look notable. EpicPupper (talk) 21:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. EpicPupper (talk) 21:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Plenty of sourcing available, as with any other American high school. Satisfies WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:50, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The only sourcing that I could find is on extremely trivial topics, like that the students of the school learned how to use iPad. Which hardly passes any kind of standard of notability. Let alone the ones in WP:NORG. I'm more then willing to change my vote to keep though if Necrothesp or anyone else can provide WP:THREE sources that discuss the school directly and in-depth. It should be pretty easy to find a few usable sources if this is really a notable topic. Especially considering there is supposedly "plenty of sourcing available." If that's the case, then I would find it hard to believe that none of them are in-depth and it is on people who say there are usable references to provide them. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:41, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There are no claims in the article that suggest it will pass WP:NSCHOOL The references in the article do not meet WP:GNG and my search only found primary and trivial mentions. Jeepday (talk) 17:28, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Thriley (talk) 01:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There appears to be dozens of recent articles detailing the schools sports teams in Nebraska newspapers. The articles demonstrate that the school is a notable participant in statewide athletics. Due to it being a private Catholic school, there may be a lack of the kind of sources that public high schools have, so the athletics mentions are more important than usual. Thriley (talk) 16:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thriley, transactional mentions such as the one you added to the article do not speak to notability, and neither do the mere listening of athletic results. I'm nit voting here, as there isn't anything in the article to show notability, no sources I've turned up are significant, and the Diocese article has no education section to redirect it to. However, I would tend to think this school is notable. It's going to take going to a library or newspapers.com, but there are probably detailed articles somewhere in the land beyond Google. Local papers, Catholic publications, somewhere. Unfortunately school notability has become a matter of "put up or shut up", and distance precludes me from doing a library search. 174.212.227.114 (talk) 21:23, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Catholic publications would work for notability because they are technically primary references. Nor would local news stories on their own. Although, maybe a case could made that the addition of some local news stories to supplement the regional ones about their sports teams could be enough. It would be stretching things though. Especially if they are just more stories about the same old sports related topics that we already have references for. That said, if anyone wants to skim newspapers.com and come up with some usable material I'd be willing to change my vote to weak keep. It can't be brief, trivial, or otherwise just passing mentions though. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:46, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:27, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I found a source from a city four counties away [1]. It appears to be an Associated Press article. Scorpions13256 (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: I also found two sources from Omaha. However, they are quite routine. One of them is on a state championship title though. I cannot access either of them. [2][3] Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:15, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, from what I see, the article shows that St. Cecilia won a statewide athletic title. This demonstrates notability to me. Thriley (talk) 21:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Honestly, the fact that this school has multiple state championship titles makes it clear that there are more sources than what I have linked. In my opinion, it is unlikely that the school's titles did not attract enough attention for a stand-alone article. Scorpions13256 (talk) 04:11, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do schools with notable sports teams usually automatically get their own articles in-lack of anything else being discussed about them because of it? --Adamant1 (talk) 13:34, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The request for deletion cites not meeting the notability standard... so yes, in my opinion if a school meets a notability standard through its athletics it should qualify. DoctorTexan (talk) 04:41, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry it took me a while to respond. I agree with Doctor Texan. Scorpions13256 (talk) 00:33, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are many sources. See:

https://www.ksnblocal4.com/content/news/St-Cecilia-names-new-activities-director-569974021.html https://www.hastingstribune.com/news/st-cecilia-to-add-ag-education-ffa/article_fa348428-67e8-11eb-b813-834a6d0e17af.html https://www.hastingstribune.com/st-cecilia-ready-to-stage-high-school-musical/article_1ae86108-9d72-11eb-9eba-3bba2ba15e3f.html https://www.ksnblocal4.com/2020/09/03/st-cecilia-confirms-covid-19-case-to-parents/ https://nebraska.tv/sports/high-school/hastings-st-cecilia-grinds-out-c1-seminfinals-win https://www.wowt.com/content/news/Warrant-issued-for-Nebraska-teacher-and-coach-accused-of-inappropriate-relationship-with-student-509379791.html ... I can keep going but I think I have made my point. DoctorTexan (talk)

Local sources do not count. However, mine are good. More probably exist. Scorpions13256 (talk) 00:33, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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