Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Bede's Prep School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to St Bede's School, Hailsham. (non-admin closure) Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 14:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

St. Bede's Prep School

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Preparatory (primary) school with nothing substantial to establish its notability. Bob Re-born (talk) 11:39, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:14, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, or redirect to Hailsham if absolutely necessary. Nothing notable here. Fmph (talk) 13:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A better redirect might be to the senior school, St Bede's School, Hailsham, which already contains some content about this school in its history section. --Bob Re-born (talk) 13:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Does not appear to satisfy WP:ORG, the relevant notability guideline, which says nothing about compulsory redirects for nonnotable schools. Wikipedia is not a directory. Edison (talk) 16:33, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, a redirect is beneficial in that it would probably deter any attempt at recreation. Carrite (talk) 17:51, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to St Bede's School, Hailsham, perhaps with a few lines merged in. This per longstanding consensus for elementary schools. Carrite (talk) 17:49, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. WP:ORG states:

When evaluating the notability of organizations or products, please consider whether they have had any significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education.

The article makes a claim for notability in that it is approximately 115 years old. Only a very strict reading of WP:ORG would deny this historicity. Therefore, the school is historically (and educationally) notable. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 19:23, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you need to read over WP:ORG again. Age, by itself, is not a determining factor of notability. Them From Space 20:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I highlighted "history" and "education" in the above quote from WP:ORG. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 20:13, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per above. Them From Space 20:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to St Bede's School, Hailsham. It is part of the same entity. Even the school website is common to the junior and senior schools. Any notable information can be added. Sussexonian (talk) 22:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect "Old" doesn't mean "historic", and "historic" doesn't mean "notable". My house turns 100 this year; it's probably historic but certainly ain't notable. The general consensus is to toss school-related articles, and I see no reason to deviate from the general consensus Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 00:31, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Houses aren't of societal value and aren't covered under WP:ORG. Schools are. This school is notable because of it's historic and educational value. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 04:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Another notable school which has inexplicably been nominated for deletion. This is a historic school with a notable link to the murderer Bodkin. Dahliarose (talk) 02:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect. Convention with schools such as this one is, as I understand it, that they do not generally warrant a stand-alone article. Appears to be non-notable. I'm not convinced that the age of this school -- by itself -- makes it notable. Similarly, the relationship to a notable murderer is extremely tenuous, IMHO, for making a claim that the school itself is notable. WP:NOTINHERITED does come to mind. I also think there is no reason to bring the nominator to task for making this nomination; the !votes of the community seem to overwhelmingly support his view, to this point, that the subject of the article fails to warrant a stand-alone article. --Epeefleche (talk) 07:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Sussexonian. It is all one organisation.--Charles (talk) 14:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect per the usual past practice -- this is not notable, see "non-selective school", and User:Bearian/Standards#Notability_of_High_Schools_at_WP:AfD. A redirect or merge will not harm the project. Bearian (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.