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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Southaven Towne Center[edit]

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Non-notable strip mall. Only hits were press releases or trivial mentions. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 12:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Citations have been found that this facility marks an important turning point for CBL & Associates as well as the local region, and should thus be notable in its own right. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 11:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Are we now going to judge notability by the number of employees for something? A store? A mall? A shopping district? Way too objective and WP:OR. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • That number would be an indication of the effect upon the economy, both local and far reaching. We already use size in a Rule of Thumb for malls. For a strip mall I would think that this would be a pretty good indication of notability (at least in this case). Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 07:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No evidence is available either in the article or here that this organization meets my understanding of Wikipedia's generally accepted inclusion criteria. Google News returns only routine stories about the opening of the mall and of specific stores which will be included - nothing primarily about the mall beyond proof of its existance. Number of employees has been considered and repeatedly rejected as a proxy for the notability of organizations. Rossami (talk) 23:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I see no need to delete this, considering it about the same amount of information as other malls or strip malls in the Memphis Area, but I see no deletion noms for them, for instance, Hickory Ridge Mall was nearly blown over by the tornadoes on Febuary 5th and is closed now, but it still has its full article. Also to Rossami, you do that same search on any mall, it'll comeback with the same information. IMO, if STC's page is deleted, the rest of the Memphis mall pages should be deleted as well, since in theory, none of them meet the inclusion criteria that Rossami so cleverly pointed out. Also to Ten Pound Hammer, I noticed that you are planning to start a page on Ashland Town Center, but when you do Rossami's infamousGoogle News search it comes up with nothing revelant either, so what is the point of nominating STC? CRocka05 (talk) 05:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, large malls and mall in general have a place here on wikipedia, we should be fair and not attack this article and leave the rest online. Malls are of broad interest as they are the primary commeercial areas in many communities and many people may have an interest in their histories. A university student may wish to find out about the history of them for a business, architecture, economics, or urban planning class.Myheartinchile (talk) 23:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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