Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Park Mexican

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The result was Keep, consensus is that he is notable and for more than one event. Davewild (talk) 17:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

South Park Mexican[edit]

This screams, amongst other things, WP:BLP1E at me and I feel it should be deleted. It seems to me that this person received a short burst of attention due to a child molestation conviction, but as a musician is not actually notable and otherwise fails WP:MUSIC. The apparent lack of non-trivial coverage about this person (aside from the single molestation event) speaks volumes. JBsupreme (talk) 07:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have got to be kidding me.. I don't see how he's only notable for one event, the guy has put out 9 albums. He was/is an extremely popular underground artist, google returns just under 1 million hits on a search for his name. I'm from the other side of the country and have been playing his albums for years. I don't mean to be a troll but how bored must you be to actually ask for a random article to be deleted for no reason other than you aren't familiar with the artist.. I don't see what harm this perfectly valid article providing useful information is causing you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ineedausernamearghh (talk • contribs) 07:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC) — Ineedausernamearghh (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete 456 G-hits on "South Park Mexican" +"houston", suggesting at the very least local notability, but many of them are either lyrics sites, sites which use his name as an example of Houston's hip-hop scene, news of the legal troubles, or a few guestbooks and petitons asking for his release from prison, not about the music itself. I think in this case, the criminal case takes more precedent than his musical career, along with his troubles, and there are BLP issues with the tone of the article. If his music in the hits outranked the criminal activity more, I think this could be rescued and it should at least be attempted familiar with someone familiar with Houston hip-hop, and I would encourage some kind of rescue attempt. As it is though, I have to go by what we can find out about his music, and I'm just not seeing it.

It would be very hurtful and upsetting if this were deleted for some reason, myspace deleted his official page, itunes only had two of his albums up and theyve already taken one down, and now this. this really hurts us as his fans. carlos is a good person who was falsely accused of a crime. if things keep goin the way they are now, the legacy of SPM wont ever be passed down. and future generations will never have the great oppurtunity to listen to such heart felt songs of truth. all i got to say is please dont delete this, do it for him, and for his family, but more importantly do it for his fans.

FREE SPM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.119.233.119 (talk) 03:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As for INAUNA's assertions above, we usually take in mind specific G-hits in decisions narrowed down by Boolean terms, and though the display shows 1 million hits, that's because it also takes in mind anything with south, park, and mexican in it, not the terms narrowed down. Nate • (chatter) 09:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: "South Park Mexican" + "Houston" is far too narrow a search term. "South Park Mexican" (with the quotes) pulls in 400,000+ hits, a not insubstantial number. PC78 (talk) 12:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again, we don't count the 'about' number, which is just every instance of all three words. I check all the results that pop up the search, and this result ended up with 439 uniques in the end. That's even fewer than my search above. Nate • (chatter) 22:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your search pulls up slightly fewer hits ATM, but that's just splitting hairs. "South Park Mexican" is a perfectly valid search term, which is every instance of that exact term, not just all three words. PC78 (talk) 03:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - 54 news articles under his real name (most seem to be about him) more under his stage name. He has attracted significant coverage for his music and more for his criminal history and conviction. Very brief mention in Journal of Texas Music History Vol 1, Issue 1 (2001). 39 google book mentions. notable for more than one event, meets WP:BIO with lots of reliable sources - Peripitus (Talk) 12:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable for both his music and his child molestation. 5000+ google hits for "carlos coy"+"south park mexican". Lyrics for 108 of his songs are found on multiple sites. Plasticup ^T/C 16:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above comments on notability. I think he probably meets notability standards of WP:MUSIC in any case. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Many hits on Google News, including one from Newsweek [1] before the molestation charges. DCEdwards ¹⁹⁶⁶ 21:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As much as I dislike his music, he's put out quite a few records and is a pretty well-known underground artist. There are articles on Wikipedia for less notable musicians. Smilesfozwood (talk) 23:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.