Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soumita Saha

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The result was delete. So Why 10:23, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Soumita Saha

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Failing GNG and BAND. While there are some sources, the majority seem based on PR releases or interviews which lack independence from the subject to verify claims. The media covering her seems somewhat local or blog-type with questions about reliability. No indication of e.g. chart success. 10,000 streams as claimed by one source is not really a lot these days. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 07:54, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 07:55, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 07:55, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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STRONG KEEP It will take some time before I am able to come up with more reliable sources. She is a popular singer from Kolkata and is well known in India and Bangladesh. In fact, one of her interviews was published by a leading print newspaper of Bangladesh (here is the screenshot), which in itself speaks of popularity and reinforces notability.

She has been extensively covered by several news sources which are part of Google News. Some of those articles date back to 2014. Here is Google News Search Results about her. Those sources can't be rubbished as tabloid or blogs.

She is a noted Rabindra Sangeet Exponent. If you look at Category Rabindra Sangeet exponents, most articles have similar style, references, media coverage. For e.g. Shreya Guhathakurta, June Banerjee, Mankirt Aulakh etc. If Wikipedia can accept those articles, why should we be partial towards this young singer?

Our purpose is to make Wikipedia more encyclopedic. It takes some time and efforts of large number of editors before an article develops fully. If we keep on deleting stub articles like this, we shall end up harming the very purpose of Wikipedia.

Edit 1- Few editors have questioned her passing WP:N. Here is screenshot of Google Autocomplete which simply reinforces the claim that she is notable in Eastern India and Bangladesh.

Edit 2- I just came across a reference about her in Times of India. Here is the web link and print (epaper) link. This article has only a paragraph (titled More Than Face Value) about her but it definitely reinforces the claim that she passes GNG and NSINGER. Quartzd (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP Soumita is a famous Rabindra Sangeet Singer. She is immensely popular in West Bengal (India) and Bangladesh. She has been part of so many Bengali TV Shows and enjoys mass popularity and fandom in this region. Therefore I recommend that this article must be kept on Wikipedia Kolkataemedia6 (talk) 09:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)— Kolkataemedia6 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete - agree with the nominator that none of the refs convey any notability - some are simply quotes from the subject about other people and some are clearly press releases and promotional material. The assertion that similar articles exist is no argument for retention. We certainly would harm Wikipedia if we retained non-notable articles Velella ^{Velella Talk} 10:08, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

- Which one do you think is a Press Release or Promotional Material? Even some of the sources used have their own Wikipedia page , for e.g. Sulekha and they are well known in India Quartzd (talk) 10:48, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - The Sun has a Wikipedia article. However there have been numerous debates on the Reliable sources noticeboard that clearly question reliability of this publication._pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 11:48, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

- - - For each individual indicator of reliability, there might be exceptions. But when combined, they speak of a significant level of reliability. I have presented sources which are 1. Part of Google News, 2. Which have Wikipedia pages themselves 3.Clippings of Print Newspapers. Together they speak volumes about the WP:RELIABILITY and WP:N Quartzd (talk) 14:24, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP Soumita is a famous Rabindra Sangeet Singer. She is immensely popular in the country after her international debut Ishq became massive hit in . Ishq released on february 2018. She not only a famous social activist but also a popular poet who dedicated a beautiful poetry to the victim of katua gang rape case. Soumita has always been vocal about wrong doings in the society and women empowerment as well. Therefore I recommend that this article must be kept on Wikipedia Emedia96 (talk) 10:27, 10 July 2018 (UTC) — Emedia96 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
STRONG KEEP Soumita Saha is one of the most successful international singer from India. She is a famous social activist who not only campaigns for women empoerment causes but also campaigns for several other causes. During diwali 2017 the young singer took initiative to motivate people to reject chineese lights.It was a famous awareness campaign, which was an unique attempt to revive the traditional art of clay lamps alive. (Here is the link it was covered by a famous daily from bangladesh [ http://thedailynewnation.com/news/151467/soumita-saha-campaigns-against-chinese-lights-and-lamps-this-diwali.html])Therefore I recommend that this article must be kept on Wikipedia Soulcraves (talk) 10:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)— Soulcraves (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete - largely per nom, individual fails to currently meet the relatively stringent requirements set forth by WP:NSINGER, as there are few/no non-trivial mentions by WP:RS. Saying that a singer is a "famous social activist who is immensely popular in the country is a bold claim, but, must still follow WP:V, which it does not at this time. --HunterM267 ^talk 16:42, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG. Might be a case of sockpuppetery and COI Accesscrawl (talk) 18:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete what even is this person. 49.145.246.5 (talk) 22:14, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notability is primarily about mass perception in the region of influence rather than an absolute crierion. If this were so, less than 10% biographies on WP shall pass GNG test. The sources covering the subject are varied and are largely accepted in this region. 2405:205:A0A1:ED04:3174:7187:9A9A:3BC9 (talk) 03:38, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG.Note many of the sources in the article are not WP:RS Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Fulfills criterion #1 of WP:MUSICBIO. The article may require expert attention though. 2405:205:A049:9F38:EC0F:BD3C:D01B:3E08 (talk) 19:07, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 00:11, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I cannot vouch for the reliability of the sources present in the article, but there are a number that focus exclusively on the subject. I couldn't find any more or "better" ones with a Google search although I did come across http://www.radioandmusic.com/entertainment/editorial/press-releases/180321-singer-soumita-saha-dedicated-song . Agree that the article needs desperate attention and copy editing. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:22, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Walter Görlitz: thanks for your vote. However this source suffers from the same deficiency as so many of the other sources - apparently not being independent of the subject. This is a press release which we'd normally discount. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 06:02, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks for the info. I did not look into the content simply the site, byline and other content. Two side notes: we don't vote, we comment and supply a !vote. Also, keep lists using the same format. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not notable. No significant coverage from reliable sources. Her YouTube channel has only 1,536 subscribers and her most popular video has only 59,000 views. Newslinger (talk) 13:16, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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