Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sofía Petro
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) EggRoll97 (talk) 04:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Sofía Petro[edit]
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daughter of the President. no individual notability DGG ( talk ) 17:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Colombia. Kj cheetham (talk) 18:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Colombia. Shellwood (talk) 18:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Any Spanish sources to go towards WP:GNG? I'm currently leaning delete as notability is WP:NOTINHERITED though. -Kj cheetham (talk) 18:59, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Kj cheetham: the two sources in the article are in Spanish and are the best two I have found so far. But I'm also inclined to either delete or redirect to Gustavo Petro per WP:INHERITED... basically she's only known for being the daughter of the new President, and as a consequence has had some attention and media interviews, but she hasn't really done anything of note as yet... she talks about feminism, standing up for human rights, feeling like she has imposter syndrome and that she has been sexualized... nothing that marks her out as having done anything independently notable. Richard3120 (talk) 19:10, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. She may only be known for being the president's daughter, but she is known. NOTINHERITED says that notability isn't automatically inherited, not that it can't be inherited. The sources in the article, and additional sources (e.g. El Tiempo) demonstrate that she passes WP:GNG. pburka (talk) 19:21, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- That's not a great source at all – a short article about who her boyfriend is. And the fact that she had been in the relationship for more than two years, but El Tiempo only decided to publish an article about it one week after her father became president, is pretty damning evidence that nobody was interested in Miss Petro until her father won the election. The sources in the article are WP:PRIMARY interviews with her, not independent, and talking mostly about her father. Richard3120 (talk) 19:30, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Unfortunately, as others have pointed out, this article fails WP:GNG. Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Weak delete Whilst there is some coverage that goes towards WP:GNG, I don't think it's significant enough. A redirect to Gustavo Petro as suggest might be worthwhile. -Kj cheetham (talk) 20:33, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Keep, due to passing WP:GNG based on the following coverage:
- https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-america-latina-61830521
- https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2022/08/06/sofia-petro-feminista-progresista-hija-gustavo-petro-presidente-de-colombia-orix/
- Via the "newspaper of record" for Colombiua: El Tiempo (Colombia) https://www.eltiempo.com/cultura/gente/sofia-petro-quien-es-el-espanol-que-conquisto-a-la-hija-de-gustavo-petro-682688
- via El Comercio (Peru) https://elcomercio.pe/mundo/latinoamerica/elecciones-colombia-2022-sofia-petro-dice-que-podria-haber-un-estallido-social-en-colombia-si-gana-rodolfo-hernandez-gustavo-petro-noticia/ CT55555 (talk) 23:24, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Two of those sources have already been discussed in this AfD... one is an interview with her so not independent, the other just talks about who her boyfriend is. The first source you linked is just one statement from her, absolutely no biographical information whatsoever. The only one that has any coverage of her as a person is the last one, El Comercio. Richard3120 (talk) 00:14, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- The CNN one reports an interview she did with a different news outlet. I think therefore it's completely independent. But tell me if I'm missing something, I'm working via Google translate. CT55555 (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- You are right, the original interview was with Canal Capital in Colombia, which is a public TV channel... owned and funded by the Colombian government. So I doubt its impartiality in interviewing the daughter of the President of the Colombian government. Richard3120 (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- That seems like a reason to discount the original interview. But not the CNN reporting on it. CNN is a well established media organisation with journalistic standards. I consider its reporting on an event about the subject of the article to be a reasonable basis to establish notability. Noting also you agree the El Comercio source is good, I think my keep !vote is reasonable. CT55555 (talk) 00:35, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- You are right, the original interview was with Canal Capital in Colombia, which is a public TV channel... owned and funded by the Colombian government. So I doubt its impartiality in interviewing the daughter of the President of the Colombian government. Richard3120 (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- The CNN one reports an interview she did with a different news outlet. I think therefore it's completely independent. But tell me if I'm missing something, I'm working via Google translate. CT55555 (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as she passes GNG judging by the sources given by CT55555, which feature sigcov of her. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:02, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)- Comment:
- She definitely gained notoriety for been Gustavo Petro's daughter however it could be relevant enough by herself now.
- Video interview with El País about her political views. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W598EEIU0yI
- 30 minutes video interview with El Tiempo about her life, career and the elections. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6NT1AFw4E
- Video from Semana with one of the leaders of the opposition talking for nearly 5 minutes about Sofia's political statements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HgxkxHoWvQ
- You can find many video interviews and news articles related to Sofia Petro, however all this was in the context of the political election so I'd say week keep. -Chien (talk) 04:38, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:11, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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