Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Social protection in Armenia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Also, the article has been rewritten; a new discussion would be needed if it is still considered deficient. Sandstein 08:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Social protection in Armenia

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Article has no sources whatsoever. It has only been minimally edited throughout its history on Wikipedia, and the original editor has not returned. User:Vanjagenije suspected it of copyvio in 2015, to no answer from the original editor. The Armenian-language WP version of this article dates to 29 January 2015; the text of that article is identical to this Armenian government website, first crawled by Wayback on 14 August 2017. It's possible that an Armenian government ministry wholesale copied a wikipedia article, but I think it's more plausible that the page simply wasn't crawled by the wayback machine until 2017, or that it existed in a different place and was moved to this URL in 2017.

The only link to this page is a "see also" on Demographics of Armenia.

This was suggested for deletion in 2015 and appears to have survived on the grounds that it "has possibilities". Only minimal edits have happened since. Given that it seems likely to be copy-pasted wholesale from another website, I think WP:TNT is a better choice than WP:NORUSH.

This article was once Armenians social protection system: Historical Review and was moved here; if this is deleted, so should the old redirect be.

tl;dr: looks like machine-translated copyvio. asilvering (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. asilvering (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. asilvering (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Info - Note to closer for soft deletion: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary).

--Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

it does look like a copyvio but it can be improved if some sources are added and maybe it's written differently. it's definitely worth having on wikipedia so id suggest it slowly be improved(which i am trying to do) than delete it all together. Avast rumali (talk) 16:42, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Slowly improving" a copyright violation is still copyright violation. And it's not a wobbly paragraph or two. It's the whole thing. -- asilvering (talk) 23:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:32, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 02:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nuke it and start over. Deletion is not cleanup. wizzito | say hello! 23:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. I've updated the article/ trimmed unnecessary blabber/ provided additional sources. Will continue to refine the annoyingly confusing "History" section in the coming days. Regards, Archives908 (talk) 22:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.