Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smile Fish (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:03, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Smile Fish

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Not notable without reliable independent media coverage page, possible promotion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smile Fish - result was soft delete. Nothing changed. ЖуковАФ (talk) 00:13, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Russia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:43, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is a Russian language Wikipedia page which I linked. It contains a number of references, some of which appear to be reliable. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the Russian media landscape can assess if the sources are enough to satisfy WP:GNG and include them on the English language page. I agree that this may be promotional but if the subject is notable that could be fixed through editing rather than deletion. Chagropango (talk) 05:46, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Our English language guidelines for companies can be found at WP:NCORP. Russian wiki has entirely different rules which are far more relaxed. I've looked at the sources and its just regurgitated company PR from the CEO which appears to be the entirety of the sourcing available. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:52, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a company/organization therefore WP:NCORP guidelines apply and we require references that discuss the *company* in detail. As per WP:SIRS *each* reference must meet the criteria for establishing notability - we need a minimum two sources containing deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and "Independent Content".

None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability of the company. What we have in the sources are all based on information provided by the company, interviews with the CEO. Pretty much regurgitated PR. None of that meets NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:49, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. I looked into sources on the Russian version. I can't say for sure that they are all pure PR, as some of the material is not explicitly affiliated, but in my opinion independent coverage is still not enough. --Suitskvarts (talk) 10:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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