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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE ALL.

This was a tricky case. Doing some google searches does turn up, among other things, the fact that MadamimadaM does exist, according to their myspace. However, they went on indefinite hiatus in February, which makes the statement in that article that their next album is due out in April 2006 rather improbable. Strike 1.

All the external links in Skar and MadamimadaM's pages are broken, most of them just not returning anything and a couple returning domain-squatter pages. Strike 2.

When I found Skar listed in the track list for the Saw II soundtrack, I was about to declare the case closed, until I went over to Amazon and found zero mention of the band in their tracklist. Strike 3.

These articles provide no verifiable proof that they're notable at all. No information was brought forward to contradict this claim, so therefore, all of these articles are now deleted.

Mo0[talk] 00:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skar, MadamimadaM, Dementia (band) and many related articles[edit]

At best a non-notable band, at worst a blatant hoax. I am also nominating the following articles for deletion:

And the following band and its album articles created by the same person:

There may be more articles around these 2 bands I haven't fished out, someone with the time may wish to go through the contributions of the articles' creator and add to the above list as necessary.

Neither band gets many Google results at all, despite the claim that Skar's No Backing Down reached the Billboard Top 200! For example, Googling for Skar "No Backing Down" -Wikipedia gets a grand total of 3 hits, [1] "MadamimadaM" "the epic center" -wikipedia gets no hits, [2], and "Skar" "artificial reality" -wikipedia gets 18 hits. [3] If this sort of hoax is allowed to remain undeleted, it may well damage our credibility. Strong delete with extreme prejudice. Kimchi.sg 05:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Add to the nomination a third band and its related articles:

There may be more. Google for dementia -wikipedia evolvere gets 462 non-relevant hits, [4] and dementia -wikipedia "shattered sky" gets 35 hits. [5] Enough said. Kimchi.sg 06:03, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another two: The Storybook, and 101 (UF album) (which is as "useless" an article as it gets - an album of a joke band without its own article). Kimchi.sg 06:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - one of Skar's songs debuted at #6 on the Billboard Top 200. That's good enough for me. I offer no opinion on MadamimadaM. - Richardcavell 05:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The song didn't, though. A simple search of Billboard.com with Skar brings up a rapper with no biography. Checking Billboard.com with "No Backing Down" yields zero results. The debut at #6 is a lie unless I am very, very wrong. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 05:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - none of this is verifiable through Allmusic.com or Amazon.com. Also, the "band" official webpages are nonexistent. Unless there is some HUGE oversight, this has to be all untrue/a hoax. -- MOE.RON talk | done | doing 05:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Fails WP:NOT looks to be seeking notability on Wikipedia rather than establishing it in the article. Ste4k 05:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the lot of it per nom. RGTraynor 08:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all, Wikipedia is not a promotional tool, fails WP:HOAX. --Coredesat talk 08:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Delete all, cannot find anything of note on any of the bands + albums. Looks to be a high quality hoax --Peripitus (Talk) 12:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - Per above unless someone finds some actual evidence of listed claims. Wickethewok 14:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all the above as severely non-notable. Speedy delete if somebody can show this is a hoax. KleenupKrew 20:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all GSeearch for Death Valley Dwellers and Lost Souls Union showed only from WP & mirror sites. There is/was a minor band called "Dementia" but with different personnel from those listed here. If not hoax definately nn. There was also an entry (Band) Dementia which was speedied on it's way. --Richhoncho 01:53, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nominator, content is not verifiable and could be a hoax. Please message me if sources can be provided. Yamaguchi先生 08:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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