Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singular: Act II

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The result was redirect to Sabrina Carpenter discography. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Singular: Act II[edit]

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No sufficient references, release date nor track listing Jax 0677 (talk) 14:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article should be kept. It’s a confirmed album, with a lead single. When Thank U, Next was in the same position, nobody disputed its notability. – Joesimnett (talk) 14:42, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with Joesimnett. I can confirm many albums that are in the same position as Singular: Act II at the moment that are not being put up for deletion. Hurts 2B Human, In My Defense, Treat Myself, Joytime III, Music Is the Weapon, LSD (album), Lines (Unthanks album), Lilac (album). Life Metal (album), Gravity (Gryffin album), Notes on a Conditional Form, The One (Trina album), The Off Season (mixtape), My Criminal Record and I can go on but I think I have made my point. LOVI33 (talk) 15:00, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also for the references. I don't know what better references then ones that come from the artist herself soo. LOVI33 (talk) 15:02, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 15:11, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 15:11, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Sabrina Carpenter is the appropriate result. Both of the above comments are simple WP:OSE, which are extremely weak in this case. I understand why it's at AfD, as the redirect keeps being reconstituted into a poorly sourced article which doesn't pass WP:NALBUM. Could be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:55, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - To keep the article history, I have no issue with a merge as a valid search term. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:35, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: @LOVI33: "I don't know what better references then ones that come from the artist herself"... almost anything is better than ones that come from the artist. Please read WP:SPS and WP:RS – sources should be from reliable, independent sources, not ones from the artist's social media. You and Joesimnett are both using WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments – and in any case, some of those albums, like Notes on a Conditional Form and Life Metal do have several independent sources to verify the statements in the article. Singular: Act I was put up for deletion for exactly the same reasons as this one: trying to create an article too soon, without any independent sources or verifiable facts. Of course, Act I DID become notable once it was released and charted, but it meant having to go through the whole debate about notability first, because the article was created too soon. This album almost certainly will pass notability as well in a few months, but right now, all we know is it will be released "some time in 2019". It's not even 100% confirmed that "Pushing 20" will be on the album. About the best source right now is this one [1], and it doesn't tell you very much. Richard3120 (talk) 15:56, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Richard3120 I understand your argument and I do agree that it maybe is a little to early to create the article but if it does get deleted I would like it to be re-created when the album does have more information. Although Carpenter did comfirm that Pushing 20 will be on Singular: Act II via Instagram Live on March 8, 2019. Also if this article does get deleted I do ask that some of the ones I metioned above get put up for discussion as well. LOVI33 (talk) 16:09, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Does not currently pass WP:NALBUM: no prejudice against recreation as and when. Eagleash (talk) 22:10, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy or move to Draft:, with a friendly advisory note to its creator as to how to continue working on it until notability is shown. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There is almost zero information about the album. Perhaps once more details on the album are released, an article can be created, but for the time being, it fails WP:NALBUM and WP:TOOSOON. Gemsweater1 (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sabrina Carpenter discography until such a time as more concrete info becomes available. Literally 8 of the 10 references are to social media (Twitter and Instagram), YouTube videos, and e-commerce sites. The two news sources are talking about Singular: Act I and the tour respectively. I don't think the coverage is there yet. Ss112 10:30, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.