Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Says (band)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
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Non-notable WP:GARAGE band with only user-generated websites (AllMusic) used as a source. Tryin to make a change :-/ 21:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and California. Shellwood (talk) 21:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Allmusic is a WP:RS, not UGC, and the band had three hits at rock radio over two major-label albums. Flies over WP:MUSIC. Chubbles (talk) 04:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Seems that WP:ALLMUSIC shows no consensus as to whether it is a WP:RS. I thought it was UGC, looks like it isn't, though. Still don't think it's notable enough for an article though. Tryin to make a change :-/ 05:23, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Wow, that's actually news to me - because of Allmusic's comprehensiveness, editors have been trying for years to casually prove it unreliable, and somehow they succeeded. I consider that a tragedy for this site, because Allmusic is really the backbone of its musical knowledge, and it has proven to me to be reliable time and again. Allmusic published multiple edited books of its biographical information; they have editorial control over their content, and I disagree that there is general cause to suspect the site's prose writeups. The biographical information and capsule reviews of the two albums on AMG have in-text attribution, so they meet the most stringent standards that the consensus asks for in considering reliability. In any case, meeting several other bullets of WP:MUSIC makes AMG alone unnecessary for the article to be retained. Chubbles (talk) 14:20, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Seems that WP:ALLMUSIC shows no consensus as to whether it is a WP:RS. I thought it was UGC, looks like it isn't, though. Still don't think it's notable enough for an article though. Tryin to make a change :-/ 05:23, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Bylined bios on Allmusic are not UGC. And more coverage is available on newspapers.com accessible through the Wikipedia library. duffbeerforme (talk) 00:16, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as AllMusic biographies are considered reliable sources per WP:MUSICRS. Darling (talk) 15:44, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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