Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Lichtenberg

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 13:28, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Lichtenberg

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Not yet notable. Does not pass GNG or Snooker WikiProject notability guidelines. Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:22, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 12:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 12:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment While I doubt the 2016 win of the German Amateur Championship (snooker) brings automatic notability, but it might have generated enaugh press that together with the recent U21 win there might be enaugh to pass GNG. Somebody who knows more where to look for RS in that field might be able to dig something up. Agathoclea (talk) 15:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's an extremely minor tournament in the snooker world. It's an amateur tournament in a country that isn't really into snooker - count the number of Germans in the current Snooker World Rankings, just one in the list of those with a ranking (131 players from around the world) and he's ranked 129th. So we have an article about the tournament (German Amateur Championship (snooker)) but we don't do articles about each year's contest. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GNG, sufficient press coverage both for winning the U21 European Championships and for the decision to allow him to become pro despite the German association not being a member of the correct body for that [1]. —Kusma (t·c) 10:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
GNG requires multiple secondary sources discussing the subject in-depth. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:16, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep although he does not yet pass GNG, we know with certainty that he will do so at the beginning of the 2018/19 season, as a member of the main tour, so deleting the article and then re-writing it in June would only be an inconvenience in my opinion. As we know it will need to be here in June, we may as well keep it up. Montgomery15 (talk) 10:49, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's the exact opposite of our policy WP:CRYSTAL. Between now and then he might discover religion, a gold mine at the end of his garden or break both his arms and never play a competitive match. Article can be restored when he is notable. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:16, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. It is unclear why a speedy delete was declined or why there are two keep votes here. Utterly non notable snooker player at this time. One ref in the article which doesn't mention him. A paid for tag. His top break is just 109. Szzuk (talk) 11:39, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. WP:CRYSTAL. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:18, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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