Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Silas Kikon

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Captain Galaxy (talk) 22:45, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Silas Kikon[edit]

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This musician does not pass any of the criteria listed under WP:SINGER. Also, the song mentioned in the article, which was supposedly the musician's "hit song", does not pass WP:NSINGLE Ajshul 😀 (talk) 21:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Ajshul 😀 (talk) 21:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are some coverage on media. It is generally more difficult to source an article from a remoter part of the world, and the fact that he was apparently more popular in the past (1990s) before news articles from such places get regularly archived on the internet made sourcing more difficult. That there is still current coverage of the singer would indicate that he is a singer of some local significance. Anonymousme (talk) 03:47, 09 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The vote above commits the "there must be sources" fallacy. I agree that the singer was from a remote area and modern online coverage is unlikely, but that is not enough for a "keep" vote. All that can be found online and in English are tributes that came in after the singer's death. If the singer has viable coverage in old hardcopy sources in his local language, those will have to be found and discussed here before anyone votes to keep the article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 13:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and other guidelines mentioned in nom Spiderone 13:14, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — Per Spiderone & explanation by Doomsdayer520. Celestina007 (talk) 11:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 18:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Anonymousme. We have to keep systemic bias in mind in situations like this. First, Nagaland is a remote state with low population and low internet connectivity. Second, Kikon's songs are clearly not in English, having listened to "Choro Kupi" just now. Since he is Lotha I assume he is singing in the Lotha language, which is only spoken by 180,000 people. Nagaland is extremely diverse linguistically; the most spoken language is spoken by about 12% of the population. Between these factors and the fact that he was most popular long before the Internet reached that part of the world, and in a decade when nearly 40% of Naga were illiterate, this article's subject is a perfect storm of systemic bias issues leading to difficulty finding sources. Therefore, I view the existing sources as sufficient to determine notability, and the article should be kept. −−− Cactus Jack 🌵 09:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the comment above, the reliable references state that he was the most popular singer in his state during the 60s to 80s so would pass criteria 7 of WP:NMUSIC (only 1 criteria needed). It would be remiss not to include him on Wikipedia in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:13, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I agree. Totally obscure. scope_creep^Talk 18:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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