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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 23:05, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shyamal Bagchee[edit]

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Academic who meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NACADEMIC. Appears a bit promotional as well. Onel5969 TT me 22:45, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 22:45, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:47, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Agreed that the article is quite promotional and might have been written by the subject of the page himself: "Although Bagchee came to Canada as an immigrant from India, he has mostly refrained from the self-created ghettos where Indians remain cocooned, sentimentally trying to keep their fantastic notion of a ‘home’ half a world away. He has not felt or regarded himself to be an alien, or in exile in Canada, and found that kind of immigrants’ anguish-ridden art insincere and having a hidden agenda of emotionally blackmailing the new country to which the same authors moved without being under duress."
I find these sentences to be quite odd, especially since they are unsourced. It sure sounds like he wrote his own page to me. The page was also written by a single purpose account that has done nothing but this one article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:04, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am saying that Bagchee disagrees with those who do not embrace their new homes. I see the problem with it and can fix it.Frankie1964 (talk) 00:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Claims need to be cited with references, and the article as it stands does not maintain the encyclopedic format of Wikipedia, as it has excessive details that are not relevant. My concern is that you are either Bagchee or someone who knows him well, which is a conflict of interest that must be disclosed. Please review WP:COI. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. and rewrit, possibly in draft space. He probably has enough publications to meet WP:PROF, but there is too much personal material to really judge. DGG ( talk ) 09:44, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete fails both WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NPROF. his GS profile and JSTOR turned up very few publications and just one or two reviews of his books, @DGG: what is the basis of your assessment of "probably has enough publications" ? --hroest 17:51, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. GS citation record inadequate. Xxanthippe (talk) 07:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]
  • Delete as lacking independent sources. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:10, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The Google Scholar citation is not an accurate reflection; a Google books search shows multiple citations in academic texts for his work on T S Eliot. He has entries in Ryerson University's online biographical dictionary of Canadian-Asian Authors[1] and in South Asian writers in Canada: a bio-bibliographical study.[2] "The Yeats-Eliot Review: A Journal of Criticism and Scholarship ... is unique because it is indepently owned and published...Founded by modern literature scholar Professor Shyamal Bagchee."[3]

References

  1. ^ "Shyamal Bagchee – Asian Heritage in Canada". Ryerson University.
  2. ^ Chilana, Rajwant Singh (2017). South Asian writers in Canada : a bio-bibliographical study. Surrey, BC, Canada. p. 288. ISBN 9780987959010.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
  3. ^ Matthews, Greg J. (4 December 2008). Literary Research and Irish Literature: Strategies and Sources. Scarecrow Press. p. 99. ISBN 978-0-8108-6367-5.
Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 03:42, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Have you physically seen sources 2&3? They don)t seem to be online and based on the first one, an uncited and very short library catalog listing that clearly isn’t an RS, I’d like to see more details of the claimed sources before accepting them. Spartaz Humbug! 19:00, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The article definitely needs a rewrite. However there's some mainstream coverage of him other the decades. I've improved one reference, and added 3 more. Nfitz (talk) 19:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • would you mind linking the sources you added here to allow everyone to easily assess them? Thanks Spartaz Humbug! 21:04, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • Here's a diff of the changes before and after I edited it. Nfitz (talk) 23:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Sources added later in the process seem to support WP:GNG notability; relisting to give the delete commenters time to react.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 15:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- Seems to be enough coverage of this person, as per others. Yet it clearly needs some copyediting and use of less self-promotional words.--Melaleuca alternifolia | talk 19:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rewrite. Seems the subject have enough coverage. Bapinghosh (talk) 20:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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