Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shopping in Townsville

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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 08:59, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shopping in Townsville[edit]

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Arbitrary list and non-notable. We don't have Shopping in Sydney or Shopping in Melbourne articles, places more well known as shopping destinations.

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Delete - not sure whether I should cite WP:ADVERTISING or WP:NOTHOWTO or both. Either way, any sources directly supporting this topic would likely be advertising material (there's unlikely to be any scholarly analysis of Shopping in Townsville) and that which isn't directly supportive of this particular topic would have to be WP:SYNTH'd together to form a conclusion about the broader topic. Stalwart111 (talk) 00:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NOTHOWTO and WP:NOTGUIDE. LibStar (talk) 01:26, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is an honest attempt to make an article on the topic of shopping in Townsville, so I don't think the NOTHOWTO or ADVERTISING arguments have any merit because this isn't a how-to guide and it isn't advertising simply because it states "these commercial entities exist". Nor does the lack of existence of WP:OTHERSTUFF matter here (it could be that Sydney and Melbourne should also have shopping topical articles). I also don't think SYNTH is applicable either; just because there's no single source that gives an overview of the whole topic does not mean we cannot combine sources together in an article in a manner that those sources still support.
The problem is instead the lack of substance, apparently indicative of the topic's lack of notability: we have purely local sources for a paragraph talking about what isn't in Townsville (no department store), and a list of shopping centres of which only five appear to be notable (so NOTGUIDE problem? perhaps; also quoting NOTHOWTO, which links to the same section, is just confusing). Normally I'd say as we have Category:Shopping centres in Townsville we should remake this into a corresponding list per WP:CLN, but there doesn't seem to be much point for such a small list at this level of locality; a List of shopping centres in Queensland (limited to notable entries) would seem more sensible. So delete as non-notable, and I don't see anything encyclopedic worth salvaging here. postdlf (talk) 15:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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