Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shona Gilbert

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:09, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shona Gilbert

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Sorry, just not a notable designer. Article is a marketing stub Modern.Jewelry.Historian (talk) 04:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 06:17, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 06:17, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Soft keep. The sources currently in article are good enough for me, although not perfect/ideal. No real presence on Google News, but she is a relative newcomer. We have kept other articles with less sourcing/references, and I believe that even if deleted now, at risk of sounding WP:CRYSTALBALL, she should pass notability this time next year at this rate. Mabalu (talk) 13:18, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Then this is a case of WP:TOOSOON and the article can be created when and if that notability threshold is passed. My !vote is Delete. §FreeRangeFrog 21:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:57, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Agree with FreeRangeFrog, this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Google News Archive [1] finds almost nothing. --MelanieN (talk) 19:02, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep I am this articles creator. The article meets all WP:NOTABILITY requirements. WP:TOOSOON states that if WP:BASIC is met that the notability standard takes precedence. WP:TOOSOON specifically states that it is only to be used if the sources quoted DO NOT YET EXIST but all of the sources do exist. Really? Womens Wear Daily isn't enough for a designer to be considered notable? It's essentially the fashion bible. Chatterboxer (talk) 14:10, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Women's Wear Daily article is behind a paywall, so it isn't possible to tell whether that is actually significant coverage or a passing mention. The lede talks about "a pack of" female designers, which suggests that she gets maybe a paragraph in an article about many designers. In any case, a single reliable-source reference is not enough to establish notability; the guideline says "multiple". --MelanieN (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Theo polisme 15:57, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Gongshow ^Talk 17:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Nothing in the article or sources I saw indicate that the subject is notable for a standalone article. Is she one of the most famous designers who is widely recognized? Nope. So what exactly is the claim to notability here? Holyfield1998 (talk) 14:40, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.