Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shihab Razzaq

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Given the new guidelines about notability guidelines for athletes, this has to be decided as a Delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shihab Razzaq[edit]

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Iraqi footballer, fails WP:GNG; WP:SPORCRIT, coverage sourced to databases, mentions, no "significant coverage, that is, multiple published, non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Also noting, "if they have achieved success in a major international competition at the highest level." Which Razzaq has not. Redirected twice by two editors (Me being one) as an alternative to delection, both reverted. So here we are... Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Iraq. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:49, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. Possibly has Arabic-langauge sources (particularly as an international player) but I don't speak it. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:51, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I think it would make more sense to add a Template:notability, for example, than to delete the article which would likely get re-created as he is an Iraq national team player. Being an international player usually constitutes notability, so it's more about adding the correct sources rather than removing the article. Hashim-afc (talk) 09:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hundreds of international player articles have been deleted since NFOOTY was abolished. We need to see the sources about the player to keep the article. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 00:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:14, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Per Hashim-afc. International capped player with ongoing career. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:03, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you insist on making these non policy based arguments? Have you got any coverage of him or not? MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 14:03, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:12, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Ongoing career or any international caps are irrelevant, WP:NSPORTS requires all subjects to pass GNG. Alvaldi (talk) 16:00, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes GNG IMO, sourcing already on page is adequate.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ortizesp Can you link to any of the significant coverage that is needed for him to pass GNG that is currently in the article? All I see is database pages or trivial mentions of him. Alvaldi (talk) 19:56, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - international caps, ongoing career... Irrelevant. All that matters is whether the subject has significant coverage from reliable, secondary sources or not. In this case, I can find no evidence that this footballer does so it should be deleted. The non-guideline arguments are at best a distraction or smokescreen, the reality is that WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC are the only relevant guidelines and neither of the guidelines make any statements of 'a footballer with international caps and ongoing career must be kept'. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:50, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.