Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shapour Marhaba

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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 00:46, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shapour Marhaba

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This article says Mr Marhaba was assassinated on 29 August 1981, and also that he was in office until 7 June 2015. This is down to poor translation. I suspect, but can't be sure, that this is a biography of a living person, and we can't have translations so poor that they say manifestly inaccurate things about living people. Let's delete it until someone with dual fluency in Farsi and English can make an accurate translation. —S Marshall T/C 00:29, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. —S Marshall T/C 00:29, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. —S Marshall T/C 00:29, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article doesn’t say he was assassinated in 1981 at all, it says his brother was. The article needs a bit of tidying up but the subject is plainly notable as having been elected to parliament multiple times. There are no grounds for deletion. Mccapra (talk) 01:56, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It said that when I nominated it for AFD. The article author made a single edit without amending the sources after nomination. I remain skeptical about the translation, in the circumstances.—S Marshall T/C 12:03, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:54, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and cleanup Translation is bad but notable.-Splinemath (talk) 17:23, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

With respect, could you just check that you've fully understood this nomination? This person is undoubtedly notable. The problem is that this is probably a WP:BLP and the translation is, as I've shown, unreliable. In the three and a half years it's existed, nobody's cleaned it up, because doing that requires someone with dual fluency in English and Farsi, and we don't have very many of those people. I'm not saying we shouldn't have an article. I'm saying that we need to delete this article until an accurate translation can be made.—S Marshall T/C 18:07, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
With respect, could you clean up the article instead of trying to delete it? -Splinemath (talk) 01:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment it’s it a bad translation at all, it just needs a bit of tidying which I’ll do tomorrow. The nomination is based on a misreading of the article content. Mccapra (talk) 00:42, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

tidied up now. Mccapra (talk) 00:51, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you'll tell me that you speak Farsi and you've checked the article content against the sources, then I'll be delighted to withdraw this nomination?—S Marshall T/C 01:33, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t speak Farsi. That was not necessary as the only issues with the article were surface level language issues and not substantial points of fact. I have looked at the sources with Google translate and see no reason to have concerns that the article does not properly reflect them on points of fact. Mccapra (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article says he survived an assassination attempt and cites this source. When I check google translate, I can't see anywhere on that page that confirms that, or indeed that mentions Shapour Marhaba at all. What am I missing?—S Marshall T/C 18:48, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Subject held an WP:NPOL-passing political office, so his notability is not in question, and any issues with the accuracy of translation are matters for the editing process, not the deletion process. Bearcat (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets GNG and NPOL. I was the one who deprodded it. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 01:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for the exact same reasons as Bearcat - I have nothing more to add. SportingFlyer T·C 11:08, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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