Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sethward

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to America's Got Talent (season 16)#Sethward. A redirect can serve many purposes, not just because there is significant coverage of it's subject in the linked article. The arguments that this subject's notability is almost entirely the result of one event, are convincing, and the redirect target therefore seems appropriate. (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:34, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sethward

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Fails WP:BIO, particularly WP:ENT, because the coverage given for notability is weak: the article mentions three appearances on AGT, and two for an ABC show, with very few references. This article was a recent creation, possibly because the person was considered by the article's creator to have need of an article for making a successful audition on AGT, after two failed attempts. The article was placed under a PROD, which was disputed on grounds that the existing (three) references provided sufficant coverage, despite the information given being minute, raising the issue of notability based on what has been provided. GUtt01 (talk) 19:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Info - Note to closer for soft deletion: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary).

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--Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:30, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No indication of meeting WP:ENT. PohranicniStraze (talk) 17:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to America's Got Talent (season 16)#Sethward (with the history preserved under the redirect) per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. The subject is mentioned as a participant in America's Got Talent (season 16) in a table in the "Season overview" section. All of the reliable source coverage about the subject is about his appearances on America's Got Talent. There is insufficient biographical coverage about other aspects of his life for him to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. I support a redirect so that readers searching for his name are directed to the show he appeared on. I support preserving the history so that the redirect can be undone if he becomes notable in the future.
Cunard (talk) 00:15, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails GNG and ENT, redirect seems impractical because the subject is affiliated with three AGT seasons and two years of The Gong Show. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

According to this search, the only place in Wikipedia mainspace where Sethward is mentioned is at America's Got Talent (season 16). He is not mentioned in any other article. Here is a source:
1. "'AGT' judges mind-boggled over how they let 'confusing' act through to the live shows". Yahoo! Entertainment. 2021-08-10. Archived from the original on 2021-08-30. Retrieved 2021-08-30.
  The article notes: "Season 16 isn't Sethward's first time on AGT. The novelty act first made his debut during Season 13, and came back for Season 14, during which he fell off the stage and exposed himself. But season 16 is the first time Sethward made it to the live shows, which had the judges utterly perplexed."
Since the America's Got Talent season articles list only contestants who "made it to the live shows" (the quarterfinals), Sethward is not being mentioned in America's Got Talent (season 13) and America's Got Talent (season 14).
The Gong Show does not have a list of episodes or seasons, so there is no place to mention Sethward as it would it would be undue weight to mention him in The Gong Show article.
The only plausible place to mention Sethward, and thus the only plausible place to redirect this article to, is America's Got Talent (season 16)#Sethward (once an anchor is added).
Cunard (talk) 08:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Cunard. I initially declined the PROD as I felt the referencing was good enough that a proper deletion discussion should take place first. I support Cunard's vote to redirect as an WP:ATD. Sources from this article could be added to the target article. NemesisAT (talk) 08:36, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don't support a redirect on the grounds that interest in him is only while the 16th season of AGT is active. Even then, there is hardly much mention of this person in the article, except his participation (denoted in the relevant article's table). A redirect only serves a purpose, I would think, if there was some coverage on the person in the associated article, however brief. GUtt01 (talk) 12:51, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.