Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sergey Sirotkin (politician) (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. There is general consensus, both here and elsewhere, that being a nationally-elected politician is sufficient for notability. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 09:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sergey Sirotkin (politician)[edit]

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Non-current member of the State Duma, who haven't written any state laws and haven't any significant coverage in the independent sources. He clearly fails WP:GNG. Also, according to WP:NPOL (which was hugely referred during previous nomination): "Just being an elected local official, does not guarantee notability". Corvus tristis (talk) 15:44, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:42, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:42, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:42, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. The State Duma is the lower house of a national pariament, analagous to the House of Representatives (United States) or House of Commons (United Kingdom). In any event, elected legislators at the state level in the United States are also automatically notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC) '[reply]

Once again, I citing for you WP:NPOL: "Just being an elected local official, does not guarantee notability". If he is really notable than his article should have at least one independent source. I have tried to find it, and even in Russian there is a lack of sources. Corvus tristis (talk) 07:04, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment would appear to pass WP:NPOL if he was a member of the State Duma, but it's outside my cultural ability to verify so am only commenting instead of voting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SportingFlyer (talk • contribs) 00:49, August 13, 2018 (UTC)
Keep Without too much difficulty, I found the Russian Wiki page which has a couple promising links and this article from Interfax http://www.interfax.ru/russia/495955 and this article stating the subject was elected to the Russian Central Election Commission. --Enos733 (talk) 07:45, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The same question, how the fact that he was elected make him notable? What he have done as member of State Duma or Russian Central Election Commission to get any notability outside one sentence "Sergey Sirotkin a former member of State Duma and current member of the Russian Central Election Commission"? Russian wiki article has only bullet points of his biography. Corvus tristis (talk) 09:04, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As a community, we have long held that representatives in a national or (state/province) parliament or assembly are notable because of their ability to enact legislation that affects us. We also generally agree that lists of elected officials are an appropriate for local officials when there is not sufficient sources to write a substantive article. It is in the continuous seeking to be comprehensive that all we need to have to write an article about a national elected official is some verification that the subject served in the position. --Enos733 (talk) 16:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Enos733, I definitely support that we should cover all representatives of the parliament when their actions affect whole country, but I've always thought that it comes from the accepted bills, but not from just seating in the parliament, I didn't see any notable action from Sirotkin besides pushing the vote button. I assume that I miss something, so will be grateful to you for clarification. Corvus tristis (talk) 19:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. In this context, "local" means "not national". He is an national elected official, and therefore automatically notable, which means he does not have to pass WP:GNG. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 09:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NPOL is a secondary criterion, WP:GNG is primary. Corvus tristis (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Easily meets NPOL as a member of parliament in one of the most powerful nations on earth. There are sources available, and I added a few. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 22:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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