Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seraphiel

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The result was no consensus. View split roughly equally between keep, merge and delete. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:23, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seraphiel[edit]

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WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. From the perspective of a fictional character, he fails WP:NFICTION. From the perspective of a religious topic, he seems to fail WP:GNG. The entry is purely descriptive with no analysis, significance, etc. Maybe redirect to some list of characters from the source work, or the source work itself (Book of Enoch)? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:36, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:36, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete the sourcing is not actually enough to justify a seperate article on this very rarely mentioned angel.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:22, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SIGCOV. Am angel mentioned once in an obscure book in the Apocrypha, and of whom there are no churches named, is not notable. Compare Gabriel, Raphael, Michael, or even Uriel. Bearian (talk) 20:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep due to over three centuries of use in English: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Seraphiel&year_start=1650&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=0 --Epiphyllumlover (talk) 06:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Epiphyllumlover: We are not a dictionary. That a word is being used doesn't mean it is notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:17, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Could this go in Wiktionary?--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 16:56, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - No -- because this is in the nature of biography, not dictionary material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterkingiron (talk • contribs) 02:50, December 27, 2020 (UTC)
Keep or merge somewhere. If I came across a reference to this angelic being, I might want to look up who it was. This means there should at least be a redirect. The Books of Enoch is not even apocrypha, but even further from canonical scripture, but they exist. I think that to merge to an article on any of them would unbalance the article. We might have a list article for persons named in book of Enoch, in the way that we sometimes have lists of characters in films or TV series. What I am suggesting would be similar. However until such a list is created, we should keep this. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:50, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The article has a section Book_of_Enoch#Names_of_the_fallen_angels. This can be merged to a section entitled "Names of other angels" I guess...? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:45, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect into the Book of Enoch, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:56, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Book of Enoch, and while I like Piotrus' suggestion of creating a new section of creating a new section, I think simply simplifying the existing section from "Names of the fallen angels" to "Names of the angels" would work. I would point out that the angel is currently included at List of angels in theology. So if merge is not the consensus, we could at least redirect to that list. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Is covered in detail in the Encyclopedia of Angels and other reference works. Andrew🐉(talk) 00:12, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.