Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sect (Canadian band)

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sect (Canadian band)

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I have found very little information online about this band. Of the three sources I was able to find, one appears to be posted on a website operated by a single person who also prepares band publicity packages, one is only two sentences, and the Mindphaser website is closely connected to Front Line Assembly, whose members played on Sect's only album. There's a biography at AllMusic, but it appears to be about a different band. I didn't find any information about performances or charting of the album tracks. None of the band members have a WP article to which this information could be directed, but possibly the information could be added to Third Mind Records and the article redirected there. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:09, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:21, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:22, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, delete because they look like a cool little band. But that's not enough to support WP:GNG. Simonm223 (talk) 19:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is a band with a seven year publication history, which was produced by a musician who went on to play with Front Line Assembly, and which occupies a unique place in the development of techno-industrial music. There's a review discussing the band's significance on Santa Sangre, and their releases all have Discogs entries. This is not an obscure garage band. The article could certainly be improved, but notability shouldn't be in question. — JEREMY 03:49, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Discogs" us a user-contributed (crowdsourced) database; an entry there doesn't show any notability at all. The Santa Sangre review is posted on Wordpress blog (it says so right on the page), and so is a weak source, but at least it names the reviewer (who says "I read no interviews, never heard them in clubs"). Whether the releases were close together or over seven years seems unimportant to notability; what would make a difference is if reviews or feature articles about some of these releases by recognized music critics could be found, or even reviews of the so-far unnamed compilation albums. If the band's one album was engineered by a notable producer, but didn't attract reviews or feature articles in edited publications, then maybe Sect (band) should be redirected to the Chris Peterson (producer) article, which is a stub, and could use some content.—Anne Delong (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I realize that it is difficult to source content about subject from this period, therefore I would recommend that the creator of the article look into archived sources (for example in https://www.newspapers.com/ or other archives, and these sources need not be available online). At the moment the sources are not quite sufficient to justify keeping, although personally I would redirect it if no further sources are forthcoming. A couple more good news sources or review articles should be sufficient. Hzh (talk) 13:50, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Discogs.com is an indiscriminate directory which, while it isn't perfect, tries to have an entry on every album that exists at all — so it's like IMDb, in that inclusion there does not instantly confer an automatic inclusion freebie here. Being active for seven years is not a notability freebie that exempts a band from actually having to pass any WP:NMUSIC criterion. NMUSIC #5 requires two albums, not one; NMUSIC #6 requires two members who are independently notable enough to have their own standalone BLPs, not just "the album was engineered by a non-member who later became a member of a more notable band". Santa Sangre is a WordPress blog, not a reliable or notability-building source, and so is Chaos Control, so that isn't helping either. And while as an actual paper alt-weekly that existed well before blogs became a thing, Westword is a more reliable source in theory, it just gives this band's album a 34-word blurbette in a "many blurbettes about many different albums" listicle — which means that it's not substantive enough to constitute a magic GNG pass all by itself as the article's only real media source. And I did search newspaper archiving sites, for the record, but I found nothing better anywhere else either. Bearcat (talk) 16:46, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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