Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seamie O'Boyle

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seamie O'Boyle

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Non notable local politician CivisHibernius (talk) 20:25, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as does have significant coverage in multiple Irish national press reliable sources, already in the article. His son's article could be merged into this one. Also how is Mícheál Mac Donncha more notable? Atlantic306 (talk) 20:47, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The media coverage referenced in his article was in response to his funeral or his son's co-option. Michael Mac Donncha was Lord Mayor of Dublin. CivisHibernius (talk) 08:22, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:35, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:36, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Let's look at the bolded parts of WP:NPOL -- Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or sub-national (e.g., province- or state-wide) office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. This person is a politician who is a member of a legislative body at sub-national level - in this case of a first-level administrative division. Ireland's appearance in List of administrative divisions by country has counties as a first-level administrative division. Therefore, the subject should meet WP:NPOL as a subnational legislator. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 02:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

O'Boyle may pass the general notability guideline, but not WP:NPOL. Irish county councils are not legislative bodies. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:10, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The counties of Ireland are not the province or state level for the purposes of NPOL #1 — the counties are still just a unit of local government whose councillors have to meet NPOL #2, no different than counties anywhere else, and are not elevated to any special status over and above other non-Irish counties just because the provinces of Ireland aren't a layer of government in their own rights. But the notability test for local politicians is not passed just because you can show one or two extralocal news stories about his death itself, or because you can cherrypick a quote from the local media which includes the word "national" in the same sentence as his name, and then bold and highlight that word inside the ref tags like you think you're dropping the mic. For a county councillor, the notability test you would have to demonstrate is that he was regularly receiving nationalized coverage for his political work on the council while he was still alive, and none of the sources here represent that at all: other than the death reportage itself, every other reference here is purely local coverage which is much more about his son than him. Bearcat (talk) 16:07, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 16:44, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and per Bearcat. Spleodrach (talk) 18:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 20:30, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Bearcat. No proof that the subject has met more than the routine coverage that local politicians generally receive. Best, GPL93 (talk) 01:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination, non notable local politician. --SalmanZ (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, it is an obituary. He fails NPOL and GNG. Szzuk (talk) 06:28, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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