Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seán F. Quinn

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The result was delete. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:10, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Seán F. Quinn[edit]

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Delete and NO MERGER: non-notable ~~paramilitary~~ IRA officer. AFD rules clearly indicate that you can't merge a name with a city or town unless there is a deep and recognised affiliation/connection between the subject and that city or town, which Seán F. Quinn most certainly did not have with Castlebellingham. Quis separabit? 12:11, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The event described in this article might be notable if the person is not. Based on a google books search for 'castlebellingham "frank aiken" ', several books seem to discuss the event, including two biographies of Frank Aiken. I do not have full access to the books, so I can't assess depth of coverage. Maybe a a partial merge to Frank Aiken would be in order. 109.79.174.71 (talk) 13:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Quinn's involvement in what sounds like quite a minor event does not make him notable per se. ww2censor (talk) 10:04, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as there's simply no improvement. SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Fourth Northern Division of the Irish Republican Army. I hate deleting these types of articles which, sooner or later, might be helpful to someone but there's no WP:SECONDARY sources beyond the two listed. There's not even much in the Irish Bureau of Military History, which is mostly a primary source. Fiachra10003 (talk) 13:18, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Upon re-review, I must point out who ridiculous this article is. To wit, and this is basically all the info there is; Also there was Frank Aiken (O/C) and Ned Fitzpatrick. They were betrayed [clarification needed]by a Catholic priest who had said Sunday Mass for them. Soon surrounded by a large force of Free State troops, Seán Quinn decided they would shoot their way out.[citation needed] Seán and Pádraig Quinn were shot and captured. Aiken escaped (he was named IRA Chief of Staff the next day).

How/why did a Catholic priest "betray" them, by the way? Does someone not know what the verb "to betray" means? The sources cited are inaccessible and almost certainly unreliable and biased. I found nothing via Google searches. No notability derived as the alleged uncle of Ruairi Quinn, nor any redirect. The whole thing is juvenile agitprop nonsense. No merger. There are too many Sean Quinns already on Wikipedia, don't add to the confusion. Quis separabit? 20:22, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Other than that this person clearly existed, clearly having a part in the aforementioned military group, there seems to be no broader notability whatsoever. Wikipedia is not a genealogy record that just lists people. This article should be deleted. I also don't think a merger or redirect is necessarily a good idea either. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.